At 9:22 AM -0500 12/24/08, Bill Guion wrote:
At 9:30 AM -0500 12/14/08, tedd wrote:
At 3:08 PM -0800 12/13/08, Yeti wrote:
I have to defend poor little IE a little now. It supports XHTML and
CSS2 pretty well so far. And those standards came out a couple of
months ago.
Even a blind pig finds
Bill Guion wrote:
At 9:30 AM -0500 12/14/08, tedd wrote:
At 3:08 PM -0800 12/13/08, Yeti wrote:
I have to defend poor little IE a little now. It supports XHTML and
CSS2 pretty well so far. And those standards came out a couple of
months ago.
Even a blind pig finds an acorn every once in a wh
At 9:30 AM -0500 12/14/08, tedd wrote:
At 3:08 PM -0800 12/13/08, Yeti wrote:
I have to defend poor little IE a little now. It supports XHTML and
CSS2 pretty well so far. And those standards came out a couple of
months ago.
Even a blind pig finds an acorn every once in a while.
Cheers,
tedd
At 5:22 PM -0800 12/14/08, Yeti wrote:
It more and more seems like a conspiracy against M$ to me. A company
trying to make up its own standards every once in a while, how can
that be wrong?
The more experienced you become, the more you'll see M$ for what it
is. They are concerned about the bot
Hah, the world will only be a small collateral fallout in the mighty
battles . . .
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, German Geek wrote:
> Conspiracy against M$? I thought they were conspiring against the world :-)
>
> Tim-Hinnerk Heuer
>
> http://www.ihostnz.com
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Yeti w
Conspiracy against M$? I thought they were conspiring against the world :-)
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Yeti wrote:
> It more and more seems like a conspiracy against M$ to me. A company
> trying to make up its own standards every once in a while,
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:28:49 -0500, tedd.sperling wrote:
>IE's popularity is dropping. I know it depends upon what site you
>test, but I like this set of stats:
>
>http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
>
>You see here that IE6 and IE7 together hold less than 50 percent.
>[...]
I l
This is my opinion (and only mine... So it could be useless) :
I installed it and try to use it... To slow and buggy (problems
importing datas from Firefox)... Keep on using IE6 et 7, Firefox and
Safari... But I am sure that as developpers we will have to use it more
and more.
Hope you are all
It more and more seems like a conspiracy against M$ to me. A company
trying to make up its own standards every once in a while, how can
that be wrong?
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:08:44 -0800, Yeti wrote:
> I have to defend poor little IE a little now. It supports XHTML and
> CSS2 pretty well so far. And those standards came out a couple of
> months ago.
???
CSS2 dates back to 1997-98 and XHTML to 1998-2000.
And some claim that XHTML is still not s
> ...
I tend to use this:
http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm
Source 5, because that is most similar to thecounter.com was before it
went haywire.
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At 3:08 PM -0800 12/13/08, Yeti wrote:
I have to defend poor little IE a little now. It supports XHTML and
CSS2 pretty well so far. And those standards came out a couple of
months ago.
Even a blind pig finds an acorn every once in a while.
Cheers,
tedd
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At 8:28 PM + 12/13/08, Richard Heyes wrote:
> I did catch that. But you mentioned that it shouldn't be used on the
internet because of that limitation, and my argument is that one
browser that is _known_ problematic should not be cause to eliminate a
feature for everyone else.
That's a
2008/12/14 Yeti :
> I have to defend poor little IE a little now. It supports XHTML and
> CSS2 pretty well so far. And those standards came out a couple of
> months ago.
>
How about HTML 4[.1] support? I would have like to see that fixed
before adding new features.
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On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 15:08 -0800, Yeti wrote:
> I have to defend poor little IE a little now. It supports XHTML and
> CSS2 pretty well so far. And those standards came out a couple of
> months ago.
>
Well, as far as I'm aware, the other browsers have been supporting most
of CSS 2 for over a year
I have to defend poor little IE a little now. It supports XHTML and
CSS2 pretty well so far. And those standards came out a couple of
months ago.
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> I did catch that. But you mentioned that it shouldn't be used on the
> internet because of that limitation, and my argument is that one
> browser that is _known_ problematic should not be cause to eliminate a
> feature for everyone else.
That's a nice thought, but not feasible in reality.
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2008/12/13 Richard Heyes :
>> Just to add, you could just stop coding for IE and alert users that IE
>> is not a supported browser.
>
> You may want to re-read my post. The graphs work in everything *but* IE.
>
I did catch that. But you mentioned that it shouldn't be used on the
internet because o
> Just to add, you could just stop coding for IE and alert users that IE
> is not a supported browser.
You may want to re-read my post. The graphs work in everything *but* IE.
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2008/12/13 Richard Heyes :
>> As long as Chrome is not being bundled with new computers the average
>> Windows users will stick to Internet Explorer. I know that from
>> customers who are referring to IE as "the program on my computer's
>> desktop running the internet". So if Google can manage to t
> As long as Chrome is not being bundled with new computers the average
> Windows users will stick to Internet Explorer. I know that from
> customers who are referring to IE as "the program on my computer's
> desktop running the internet". So if Google can manage to transform
> Chrome into the "int
2008/12/13 Yeti :
> I got so used to Opera's mouse gestures, now I can't work fluently
> with other browsers. So I tried Chrome for like 5 minutes. It's always
> like "How do I go back to the previous page again or how do I open a
> new tab?".
Umm. It's easy.
Going back:
1. Click the back button
I got so used to Opera's mouse gestures, now I can't work fluently
with other browsers. So I tried Chrome for like 5 minutes. It's always
like "How do I go back to the previous page again or how do I open a
new tab?".
As long as Chrome is not being bundled with new computers the average
Windows use
> Do you mean "as seen on /." ?
I don't know, "dotslash" has a nice ring to it. Darn, the domains are gone...
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2008/12/12 Robert Cummings :
> Do you mean "as seen on /." ?
>
I do, at least.. at least I mean what I say... that's the same thing, you know.
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On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 18:39 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/12/12 Richard Heyes :
> > Well it's not really related to PHP, but certainly web development in
> > general. Personally, I was surprised by the jump from 0.4 to 1.0.
> > Judging by other Google betas (eg Gmail) I was expecting it to be in
> As seen on ./, it seems that Google may be pressing OEMs to include
> Chrome bundled on new computers. That cannot happen with a beta web
> browser.
Great. Can't fault them. Even in its beta state, I think it's better
than MSIE. I still use Firefox though...
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2008/12/12 Richard Heyes :
> Well it's not really related to PHP, but certainly web development in
> general. Personally, I was surprised by the jump from 0.4 to 1.0.
> Judging by other Google betas (eg Gmail) I was expecting it to be in
> beta for the next decade or so.
>
As seen on ./, it seems
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