Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread eric van blokland
I will start with removing obsolete references from my code. But if the problem persist, could you please try to find some time to look at the issue with me. Thank you for the support so far. I'll be back here in one or two days Have a nice evening! On 11/23/05, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread Jochem Maas
eric van blokland wrote: 1. Overengineering perhaps... 2. Reinventing the wheel? Probably, but I just like to know every single "bit" of the wheel I use hmm, did you build your own PC? and the CPU did you build that? do you know exactly how it works? me niether. 3. I do get confused every n

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread eric van blokland
1. Overengineering perhaps... 2. Reinventing the wheel? Probably, but I just like to know every single "bit" of the wheel I use 3. I do get confused every now and then about PHP5 OO 4. References everywhere? Yes, the code was originally written for PHP4 I have already started removing them, but ser

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread Jochem Maas
eric van blokland wrote: LOL @ Jochem Well I sure can't argue with that! (serious) But with or without comments, the code is broken or breaks something. I've tracked down the weird bevahiour a little further. Now I would sure like, if one of you has about 30 minutes time to look at my prob

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread eric van blokland
LOL @ Jochem Well I sure can't argue with that! (serious) But with or without comments, the code is broken or breaks something. I've tracked down the weird bevahiour a little further. Now I would sure like, if one of you has about 30 minutes time to look at my problem with me, using VNC and Skype

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread Jochem Maas
Eric, everything you have written suggests to me that the problem is in your code (that may be being caused by changes to the engine, which have either removed an ability due to the fact that it was dangerous [e.g. reference issues], or abilities that have been changed because they were deemed wr

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] 1. That's what I've warned about from the beginning, that outside the complete project environment the error probably wouldn't occur. 2. I understand this completely, naturally. I would like to thank everybody spending time in reading my posts, particulary you, Jay. But that's why I would l

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread eric van blokland
1. That's what I've warned about from the beginning, that outside the complete project environment the error probably wouldn't occur. 2. I understand this completely, naturally. I would like to thank everybody spending time in reading my posts, particulary you, Jay. But that's why I would like to g

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Example is still quite large, all database functionality and other arbitrary code has been stripped. Over 50.000 lines of code have been reduced to a few hundred. Example can be downloaded here: http://213.10.83.232/example.tar Explanation of example: - When you load index.php, the involv

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread eric van blokland
Example is still quite large, all database functionality and other arbitrary code has been stripped. Over 50.000 lines of code have been reduced to a few hundred. Example can be downloaded here: http://213.10.83.232/example.tar Explanation of example: - When you load index.php, the involved obje

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I've got some example code on what I'm doing, however, as I expected, the error is gone! All involved objects were taken from the project, but not related code has been stripped-off. (Which means that some of that "at code level not related code" is in fact "related at compiler level". I s

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread eric van blokland
I've got some example code on what I'm doing, however, as I expected, the error is gone! All involved objects were taken from the project, but not related code has been stripped-off. (Which means that some of that "at code level not related code" is in fact "related at compiler level". I still sus

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread eric van blokland
-- Forwarded message -- From: eric van blokland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 23, 2005 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x To: Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 11/23/05, Jay Blanchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > I

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Object A has Object B, while Object B has a "parent" attribute which is referenced back to its parent: Object A Cross-referenced: Object A has a child Object X, Object B also has a child, it's a reference to the very same Object X The dizzy making thing here? Object B is also a child of O

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I understand your point, but I can't offer you the project as it's company property. Again, I will try to make a reproduce/example script. Meanwhile, try to believe my assumption that the PHP compiler is broken because: [/snip] Have you thought about sending your description of the problem

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-23 Thread eric van blokland
"Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message * news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED] >... > On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 07:41:10PM +0100, Eric wrote: > > I would like to have some assistance in debugging php. It's about a > > bug in php not a script of mine. > > First off there is a big difference between

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Curt Zirzow
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 07:41:10PM +0100, Eric wrote: > I would like to have some assistance in debugging php. It's about a bug in > php not a script of mine. First off there is a big difference between 5.0.x and 5.1.x as well as 5.0.1 and 5.0.5, what version are we talking about? > > I can't po

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Eric
[snip] No, I understand perfectly. There is a point at which the code breaks, is there not? There are error messages, are there not? You cannot unequivocally state that the PHP compiler is broken until the code has been evaluated. We are trying to help you here, but you have to show us something. W

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Eric
[snip] It sounds like you are storing an object property sometimes as a string, and sometimes as an array. [/snip] I can assure you, this has nothing to do with this issue, the only type-juggling I do once in a while is byte/int/long/double/string -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I think you don't understand completly, the project exists out of tens of thousands lines of code. - I don't have a short reproduce script - I don't know if it's possible to create one, however, i'll try My code may appear to be weird, but it's no broken. The php compiler is broken though a

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Eric
[snip] Give us an example of the code where it breaks and also any error messages. That will give us a starting point. [/snip] I think you don't understand completly, the project exists out of tens of thousands lines of code. - I don't have a short reproduce script - I don't know if it's possible

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, November 22, 2005 2:37 pm, Eric wrote: > $this->title=$this->B[$key]->title; While this is SUPPOSED to work in PHP 5, it would be my first suspect of under-tested code. Try this: $temp = $this->B[$key]; $this->title = $temp->title; > This is not a typo, the key mysterialy changed to "Ned

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] If anyone is still interested in helping me, please let me know, tell me what you need, what you intend to check, a guess about the cause of the issue? [/snip] Give us an example of the code where it breaks and also any error messages. That will give us a starting point. -- PHP General Ma

Re: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Eric
That's just one of the problems, it's about a project with over tens of thousands lines of code. As I said before, I don't know whats the exact cause. There are so many variables that contribute to this issue and of most of them I don't understand why they contribute. However, I'm convinced the php

RE: [PHP] Assistance debugging php 5.x.x

2005-11-22 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] This is "globally" what happens. If you're insterested in this issue, willing to help me and if you think yourself to be cappable of helping me. Please contact me by responding to this post or contact me directly: [/snip] There are several on this list who are willing and capable of helping