Re: [PHP] Articles system OT

2007-05-11 Thread Daniel Brown
That's the first time I've ever heard that one! I can say, though, I'll get some use out of it. Brilliant that really made my evening. On 5/11/07, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 1:48 PM -0700 5/8/07, Micky Hulse wrote: > >How much content should go on each site page? Like Goldi

Re: [PHP] Articles system OT

2007-05-11 Thread tedd
At 1:48 PM -0700 5/8/07, Micky Hulse wrote: How much content should go on each site page? Like Goldilocks and the three bears, the answer is not too much, and not too little: just the right amount of content. As an English Professor once told me about writing a good essay, he said: "It's li

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2007-05-09 Thread bruce
nice chunk of change... -Original Message- From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:35 PM To: Stut Cc: WeberSites LTD; 'Robert Cummings'; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Articles system On Tue, May 8, 2007 2:50 pm, St

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2007-05-09 Thread Stut
Richard Lynch wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2007 2:50 pm, Stut wrote: WeberSites LTD wrote: 1st, I never said I was any authority about anything :) I'm just building the weber sites as a hobby... Hobby or not, when you publish information on the web without a big message saying "I have no frickin' ide

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2007-05-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:21 -0400, Mike Shanley wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: > > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > Think of it this way: > > > > Content is king. > > > > When your advertising out-weighs your content, you lose visitors. > > > > When you lose visitors, you lose revenue. > > > > PS >

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2007-05-08 Thread Mike Shanley
Richard Lynch wrote: Sorry for the confusion. Think of it this way: Content is king. When your advertising out-weighs your content, you lose visitors. When you lose visitors, you lose revenue. PS Yes, I also hate the entertainment media formerly known as news. Any questions? I haven't wat

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2007-05-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 19:40 -0500, Richard Lynch wrote: > > OMG!!! Like, 5K on a webpage? Are you crazy? Nobody will visit that! 5K deflated right?? ;) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com |

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2007-05-08 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, May 8, 2007 2:54 pm, WeberSites LTD wrote: > structure and semantics influence how the page looks. > One browser may overlook a missing and > show the page and another may not. validating > will show where you may have gone wrong. > > Writing "good" HTML is good practice :) To be pedantic

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2007-05-08 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, May 8, 2007 2:50 pm, Stut wrote: > WeberSites LTD wrote: >> 1st, I never said I was any authority about anything :) >> I'm just building the weber sites as a hobby... > > Hobby or not, when you publish information on the web without a big > message saying "I have no frickin' idea what I'm t

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2007-05-08 Thread Micky Hulse
Richard Lynch wrote: "It should be as long as a woman's skirt; Long enough to cover everything important, and short enough to be interesting." Hehehe! Great quote! :D -- Wishlists: Switch: BCC?: My:

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2007-05-08 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, May 8, 2007 3:48 pm, Micky Hulse wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: > " > Page Size: > How much content should go on each site page? Like Goldilocks and the > three bears, the answer is not too much, and not too little: just the > right amount of content. Or as Sr. Andre, OSC at St. Patrick's G

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2007-05-08 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, May 8, 2007 2:33 pm, Stut wrote: > WeberSites LTD wrote: >> Not sure why it's not working with FF. the page passes validation at >> validator.w3.org. > > Validation has never and will never mean it looks right. And it > worries > me that someone presenting themselves as an authority on web

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2007-05-08 Thread Richard Lynch
es validation at > validator.w3.org. > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:45 PM > To: WeberSites LTD > Cc: 'Robert Cummings'; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: RE:

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2007-05-08 Thread Micky Hulse
Richard Lynch wrote: I don't really understand how breaking it up is "good" unless we're talking about a "series" broken up by an author or editor for good valid semantic reasons... Some good info from book Google Advertising Tools: " Page Size: How much content should go on each site page?

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2007-05-08 Thread Micky Hulse
Robert Cummings wrote: I'll take one big scroll any day over 10 pages of ad infestation. At my part-time job (web content editor at newspaper) we give folks the option of viewing the multi-page ad infested article as a "print preview" which is the same article, but on one page and print ready

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2007-05-08 Thread Stut
ROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:51 PM To: WeberSites LTD Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Robert Cummings'; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Articles system WeberSites LTD wrote: 1st, I never said I was any authority about anything :) I'm just building

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2007-05-08 Thread WeberSites LTD
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:51 PM To: WeberSites LTD Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Robert Cummings'; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Articles system WeberSites LTD wrote: > 1st, I never said I was any authority about anything

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2007-05-08 Thread WeberSites LTD
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:44 PM To: WeberSites LTD Cc: 'Stut'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Articles system On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:42 +0200, WeberSites LTD wrote: > 1st, I never said I was any aut

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2007-05-08 Thread Stut
LTD Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Robert Cummings'; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Articles system WeberSites LTD wrote: Not sure why it's not working with FF. the page passes validation at validator.w3.org. Validation has never and will

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2007-05-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:42 +0200, WeberSites LTD wrote: > 1st, I never said I was any authority about anything :) > I'm just building the weber sites as a hobby... > > 2nd, I beg to disagree. Validation has allot to do with how > pages look. In many cases, if you have differences between > browse

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2007-05-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:37 +0200, WeberSites LTD wrote: > Actually I'm using tables. DOH! Should have looked before slamming >:) > I have no idea what was the problem but I added a " " somewhere > and it looks ok now. > > FF bug? > I mean, the page passed w3 validation and didn't show on FF whi

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2007-05-08 Thread WeberSites LTD
riginal Message- From: Stut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:34 PM To: WeberSites LTD Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Robert Cummings'; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Articles system WeberSites LTD wrote: > Not sure why it&

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2007-05-08 Thread WeberSites LTD
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:33 PM To: WeberSites LTD Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Articles system On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:28 +0200, WeberSites LTD wrote: > Not sure why it's not working with FF. the pag

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2007-05-08 Thread Stut
-Stut -Original Message- From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:45 PM To: WeberSites LTD Cc: 'Robert Cummings'; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Articles system On Tue, May 8, 2007 1:13 pm, WeberSites LTD wrote

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2007-05-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:28 +0200, WeberSites LTD wrote: > Not sure why it's not working with FF. the page passes validation at > validator.w3.org. Are you using CSS instead of tables? *teehee* sorry couldn't resist for all the CSS purists reading this :) Cheers, Rob. -- .--

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2007-05-08 Thread WeberSites LTD
lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Articles system On Tue, May 8, 2007 1:13 pm, WeberSites LTD wrote: > This is interesting. > I wonder if more people feel the same. > > Compare the articles on weberdev.com (my site) : > Example : http://www.weberdev.com/ViewArticle/486 Completely u

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2007-05-08 Thread WeberSites LTD
I'm shocked :) Had no idea the page was not usable on FF. Will get on it ASAP. -Original Message- From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:45 PM To: WeberSites LTD Cc: 'Robert Cummings'; 'Lester Caine'; php-general@lists.

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2007-05-08 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, May 8, 2007 1:14 pm, WeberSites LTD wrote: > Notice my last mail where I give the example of how devarticles.com > break the articles into several pages : > > http://www.devarticles.com/c/a/Java/Getting-Started-with-Java-2D/ I should have said "author/editory unconstrained by artificial co

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2007-05-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 20:13 +0200, WeberSites LTD wrote: > This is interesting. > I wonder if more people feel the same. > > Compare the articles on weberdev.com (my site) : > Example : http://www.weberdev.com/ViewArticle/486 > > To the articles on devarticles.com for example. > http://www.deva

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2007-05-08 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, May 8, 2007 1:13 pm, WeberSites LTD wrote: > This is interesting. > I wonder if more people feel the same. > > Compare the articles on weberdev.com (my site) : > Example : http://www.weberdev.com/ViewArticle/486 Completely un-usable on Firefox 1.5.0.5 with current Gentoo Linux. I've got a

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2007-05-08 Thread Lester Caine
WeberSites LTD wrote: This is interesting. I wonder if more people feel the same. Compare the articles on weberdev.com (my site) : Example : http://www.weberdev.com/ViewArticle/486 Interesting example - I presume there should be text on the page, but all I see is a blue page ;) To the ar

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2007-05-08 Thread Lester Caine
Stut wrote: Hey Lester, kick your damn mail server! Sorry about that British Telecom crap again :( Usually when it's busy it just says no service, and you try again later. This time it decided to give the no service message but send a copy of the message anyway. SO each time I tried to send it

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2007-05-08 Thread Jason Pruim
On May 8, 2007, at 2:13 PM, WeberSites LTD wrote: Do more people prefer all of the info on one page? For me, unless it's like a "Chapters in a book" setup, I'd prefer the info all on one page (Especially tutorials so I can scroll back and refer to other stuff) Just my 2¢ -- Jason Prui

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2007-05-08 Thread WeberSites LTD
: Robert Cummings Cc: Lester Caine; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Articles system On Tue, May 8, 2007 12:17 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 17:21 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: >> WeberSites LTD wrote: >> > Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread o

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2007-05-08 Thread WeberSites LTD
prefer all of the info on one page? thanks berber -Original Message- From: Robert Cummings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:18 PM To: Lester Caine Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Articles system On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 17:21 +0100, Lester Caine wrote

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2007-05-08 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, May 8, 2007 12:17 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 17:21 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: >> WeberSites LTD wrote: >> > Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread or not so I opened a new one. >> > I'm guess I'm looking for a CMS system but I only need it for >> articles. >> > >> > Pr

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2007-05-08 Thread Lester Caine
Stut wrote: If you find later you need another package you can simply add it, but you only need the core user stuff, and the package(s) you want to use. Hey Lester, kick your damn mail server! Haven't got a big enough boot to get at pigging BT :( Currently it's saying SMTP is down - but it h

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2007-05-08 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 17:21 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > WeberSites LTD wrote: > > Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread or not so I opened a new one. > > I'm guess I'm looking for a CMS system but I only need it for articles. > > > > Preferably one that knows how to break the article into several

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2007-05-08 Thread Lester Caine
WeberSites LTD wrote: Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread or not so I opened a new one. I'm guess I'm looking for a CMS system but I only need it for articles. Preferably one that knows how to break the article into several pages so that you don't need to see one big scroll. Any recommendat

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2007-05-08 Thread Stut
Lester Caine wrote: WeberSites LTD wrote: Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread or not so I opened a new one. I'm guess I'm looking for a CMS system but I only need it for articles. Preferably one that knows how to break the article into several pages so that you don't need to see one big scro

Re: [PHP] Articles system

2007-05-08 Thread Lester Caine
WeberSites LTD wrote: Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread or not so I opened a new one. I'm guess I'm looking for a CMS system but I only need it for articles. Preferably one that knows how to break the article into several pages so that you don't need to see one big scroll. Any recommendat

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2007-05-08 Thread Lester Caine
WeberSites LTD wrote: Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread or not so I opened a new one. I'm guess I'm looking for a CMS system but I only need it for articles. Preferably one that knows how to break the article into several pages so that you don't need to see one big scroll. Any recommendat

Re: [PHP] Articles system

2007-05-08 Thread Lester Caine
WeberSites LTD wrote: Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread or not so I opened a new one. I'm guess I'm looking for a CMS system but I only need it for articles. Preferably one that knows how to break the article into several pages so that you don't need to see one big scroll. Any recommendat

Re: [PHP] Articles system

2007-05-08 Thread Lester Caine
WeberSites LTD wrote: Wasn't sure if to use the CMS thread or not so I opened a new one. I'm guess I'm looking for a CMS system but I only need it for articles. Preferably one that knows how to break the article into several pages so that you don't need to see one big scroll. Any recommendat