Frank Joerdens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(the context is Microsoft using other OSs)
> Do you know for a fact that they do? If so, how? That'd be a very cool
> tidbit of information to share . . .
See also:
http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch/
A good document to hit clients/funders/bosses over t
> > Why would Microsoft be using Solaris, or Linux even? (hint, the same
> > reason -- their stuff works less good).
>
> Do you know for a fact that they do? If so, how? That'd be a very cool
> tidbit of information to share . . .
Yep it is (was) true. We used to laugh about it at work. (We w
> > > Why would Microsoft be using Solaris, or Linux even? (hint, the same
> > > reason -- their stuff works less good).
Www.microsoft.com used to be served off of Solaris (where else could
you run a high performance installation of Oracle? ;). Hotmail was
(is) FreeBSD. Anyone would be stupid
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Frank Joerdens) wrote:
> > > But why would Microsoft be using PHP? =D
> >
> > Why would Microsoft be using Solaris, or Linux even? (hint, the same
> > reason -- their stuff works less good).
>
> Do you know for a fact that they do? If so, how
Egan wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:45:01 -0500, "Romulo Roberto Pereira"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Copyright? This do not exist!!! See the case of NAPSTER
>
> The law is one thing. Whether people obey it or not, is another.
>
If we expect people to honor our various open source l
> You cannot copyright ideas, and the PHP language is only an idea.
I beg to disagree. The copyrighting or patenting of software is currently a
topic, at least in the European Union.
In the gene world it is general (mis)practise to patent medical plants which
have been used for ages in othe
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 07:02:06PM -0800, jeremy brand wrote:
> > Soo true.
> >
> > But why would Microsoft be using PHP? =D
>
> Why would Microsoft be using Solaris, or Linux even? (hint, the same
> reason -- their stuff works less good).
Do you know for a fact that they do? If so, how? T
At 02:50 AM 1/18/2001 -0500, Egan wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:45:01 -0500, "Romulo Roberto Pereira"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Copyright? This do not exist!!! See the case of NAPSTER
>
>The law is one thing. Whether people obey it or not, is another.
I agree. I would also say that the l
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 02:45:01 -0500, "Romulo Roberto Pereira"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Copyright? This do not exist!!! See the case of NAPSTER
The law is one thing. Whether people obey it or not, is another.
Egan
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From: Egan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Les Neste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Ethics question..
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:56:18 -0500, Les Neste
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What Egan wrote is very true. I speak with some knowledge -- having
>weathered a copyright violation suit based on the action of one of my
>employees -- and if you write it (as anything other than an employee) then
>you ow
Zend
compiler comes out you wont have a way to safely distribute the code
hack proof (Read: less hackable =:) )
-Original Message-
From: Shane McBride [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] Ethics question...
W
What Egan wrote is very true. I speak with some knowledge -- having
weathered a copyright violation suit based on the action of one of my
employees -- and if you write it (as anything other than an employee) then
you own it, 'it' being the source code and the program compiled from that
source cod
At 21:24 17/01/01 -0500, Shane McBride wrote:
>I have spent a lot of time working on a specific E-Commerce
>(shopping-cart) to fill a need for a customer. Now that the project is
>complete, I would like to market the product, which is entirely PHP and MySQL.
>
>My question is: Is it ethical to s
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:59:41 -0600, "Scott Gerhardt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If your client paid you to develop the E-Commerce system they would
>typically own all rights to it unless otherwise agreed upon.
I don't know what country you are speaking of, but in the U.S., that
view is a commo
TECTED]>; "Kath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [PHP] Ethics question...
> hey, hey ...
riginal Message-
From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:09 PM
To: Maxim Maletsky
Cc: Shane McBride; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] Ethics question...
> a customer like Microsoft, Morgan-Stanley, Amazon.com.. yes, but a new
> start-up tha
Cc: Maxim Maletsky; 'Rasmus Lerdorf'; Shane McBride;
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Subject: Re: [PHP] Ethics question...
> Soo true.
>
> But why would Microsoft be using PHP? =D
Why would Microsoft be using Solaris, or Linux even? (hint, the same
reason -- their stuff works less g
> a customer like Microsoft, Morgan-Stanley, Amazon.com.. yes, but a new
> start-up that thinks: "when we'll grow we'll buy something cooler" will
> crack your soft down (or will ignore your license) ... I've seen it
> happening so many times...
So what? They'll do that anyway unless you spend a
> Soo true.
>
> But why would Microsoft be using PHP? =D
Why would Microsoft be using Solaris, or Linux even? (hint, the same
reason -- their stuff works less good).
:)
Jeremy Brand :: Sr. Software Engineer :: 408-245-9058 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.JeremyBrand.com/Jeremy/Brand/Jerem
Shane,
This is highly off-topic but interesting and important enough to answer.
It really boils down to who owns the product (intellectual copyright) and
what sort of agreement you have with your client (ownership, confidentiality
etc.).
If your client paid you to develop the E-Commerce system t
> a customer like Microsoft, Morgan-Stanley, Amazon.com.. yes, but a new
> start-up that thinks: "when we'll grow we'll buy something cooler" will
> crack your soft down (or will ignore your license) ... I've seen it
> happening so many times...
>
Soo true.
But why would Microsoft be using P
> > There are no restrictions on that. In fact the license on PHP is
> > explicitly not the GPL for this very purpose.
>
> How does the license of PHP have anything to do whith the code that
> Shane has written (unless he is distributing his software with PHP,
> much as like an embeded system)?
riginal Message-
From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:33 AM
To: Shane McBride
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] Ethics question...
There are no restrictions on that. In fact the license on PHP is
explicitly not the GPL for this very purpose
> There are no restrictions on that. In fact the license on PHP is
> explicitly not the GPL for this very purpose.
How does the license of PHP have anything to do whith the code that
Shane has written (unless he is distributing his software with PHP,
much as like an embeded system)?
This hits b
There are no restrictions on that. In fact the license on PHP is
explicitly not the GPL for this very purpose.
As for restricting the demo. I would suggest restricting it via a
license. Any serious customer is not going to violate a license in order
to save a couple of hundred bucks.
-Rasmus
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