On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Ford, Mike wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 16 June 2011 17:51
>
> [...]
>
> > Here's what's going on, I instantiate a model object for the product
> > table
> > from my application
> >
> > $new
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 16 June 2011 17:51
[...]
> Here's what's going on, I instantiate a model object for the product
> table
> from my application
>
> $newRecord = new Product();
>
> at this point memory usage goes up noticea
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Jim Lucas wrote:
> On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
> > what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing
> only,
> > generating web pages. for anything else, including command line scripts
> > that run for more than 30 seconds, choos
On 17 June 2011 20:19, Jim Lucas wrote:
> On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
>> what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing only,
>> generating web pages. for anything else, including command line scripts
>> that run for more than 30 seconds, choose an actual prog
On 6/17/2011 12:23 PM, Eric Butera wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jim Lucas wrote:
>> On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
>>> what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing only,
>>> generating web pages. for anything else, including command line scripts
>>
Not the original poster's response, but here PHP daemons also run smoothly.
Full fledged OO style programming, with a bit of a thought about freeing
unused variables/objects (running since PHP 5.2 times) it runs smoothly and
in couple of weeks of uptime only gains few MB of memory footprint. Not
he
On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
> what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing only,
> generating web pages. for anything else, including command line scripts
> that run for more than 30 seconds, choose an actual programming language or
> be prepared to deal w/ h
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jim Lucas wrote:
> On 6/16/2011 3:15 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
>> what it really amounts to is php is good at doing 1 thing and 1 thing only,
>> generating web pages. for anything else, including command line scripts
>> that run for more than 30 seconds, choose an a
On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:05 AM,
wrote:
> While I do agree with your discloser of the bloat for all off the shelf
> frameworks.
>
> I created my own framework and my development time drop drastically and not
> by a few hours, in some cases days.
>
> The complaint of time is always an issue, if
hat are DB driven.
I never claimed to be the expert here, I just know what has made me very
successful.
Richard L. Buskirk
-Original Message-
From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 1:46 AM
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Doctri
2011/6/17 Nathan Nobbe
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Eric Butera
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Daevid Vincent
> wrote:
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:51 AM
> > >> To: php-g
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 06:50:00PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
[snip]
>
> Name me some LARGE popular sites that use frameworks?
>
I generally agree with your position, but I'm not sure about this one.
I'm too lazy/busy to do extensive research, but I believe that Joomla and
Drupal are used pr
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 08:53:18PM -0400, Eric Butera wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> >
[snip]
>
> I'm sorry but this is absolute rubbish. I used to write my queries by
> hand, but over time you start to realize that perhaps, maybe writing
> out thousands of
> >> out XSS out of the box. Of course, with diligence and time we can all
> >> overcome these things, but that does not mean someone with the
> >> ambition to bang together a quick website for a relative understands
> >> the real perils they're getting into - I certainly did not.
> >
> > I'm sure
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:53 PM
>> To: Daevid Vincent
>> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [P
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:53 PM
> To: Daevid Vincent
> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:32 P
11 2:58 PM
> >> To: Daevid Vincent
> >> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> >> Subject: Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Daevid Vincent
wrote:
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 5:39 PM
> To: Daevid Vincent
> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: RE: [PHP] Doctrine madness!
>
> On Jun 16, 2011 5:31 PM,
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:58 PM
>> To: Daevid Vincent
>> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [P
On Jun 16, 2011 5:31 PM, "Daevid Vincent" wrote:
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:58 PM
> > To: Daevid Vincent
> > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> &
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Butera [mailto:eric.but...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:58 PM
> To: Daevid Vincent
> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Doctrine madness!
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Daevid Vincent w
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Eric Butera wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:51 AM
> >> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> >> Subject: [PHP] D
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:51 AM
>> To: php-general@lists.php.net
>> Subject: [PHP] Doctrine madness!
>>
>> Hi gang,
>>
>> If anyone out there has some
> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:quickshif...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:51 AM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Doctrine madness!
>
> Hi gang,
>
> If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would be a great
> time to share it
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Eric Butera wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Nobbe
> wrote:
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would be a great
> > time to share it!
> >
> > So I'm writing a batch importer and noticed memory usage climb
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> If anyone out there has some experience w/ Doctrine now would be a great
> time to share it!
>
> So I'm writing a batch importer and noticed memory usage climbing during
> script execution.
>
> In the debugging effort I've isolat
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