Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-28 Thread DL Neil
Hello Manuel, I have just re-read this, and am conscious that I am appearing to disagree with you, too frequently, yet in overview I am wanting to agree!? I am a consultant, and I am well used to playing "devil's advocate", ie disagreeing with what is being said, in order to arrive at the best

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-27 Thread Chris Lott
I agree about going to technical colleges and other areas. In fact, I made that very point. There is no reason that these kinds of programs even NEED to be four year degrees. I don't want to get into a debate about certifications. As one who hires programmers, I can say this for myself and many o

[PHP] Re: PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Frazer
In order to make a living as a programmer, unless you can seriously wow your potential employers with raw ability, it's difficult to make any real money unless you have a little piece of paper that says "Look what I can do!" I've been programming in PHP, Perl, ASP, Java, Visual Basic, C and C++ to

[PHP] PHP in the University and Corporation [was RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP]

2002-01-26 Thread Chris Lott
Computer science is considered an engineering discipline in most institutions. And I think that's good... we need people out there to develop OS's, create database servers, etc. PHP can be effectively used in this curriculum, but C seems a lot more to the point. The place where PHP could (and sh

Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-26 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Dl Neil wrote: > > One good point about what you said is that one budgetless what to > > promote PHP is to use 'viral marketing'. Viral marketing is a way to > > market something by using a technique that spreads by itself, ie, no > > additional effort or money needed to be spent by the or

Re: [PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-24 Thread DL Neil
Hello Manuel, > > One other dimension, the institutions can only offer classes in the languages (and >techniques/technologies) that > > the trainers know and than they have the resources (hardware, >compilers/interpreters) to cover. > > > > Maybe therein lies an answer to the 'marketing' side t

[PHP] Viral Marketing PHP (was Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP)

2002-01-23 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, Dl Neil wrote: > One other dimension, the institutions can only offer classes in the languages (and >techniques/technologies) that > the trainers know and than they have the resources (hardware, >compilers/interpreters) to cover. > > Maybe therein lies an answer to the 'marketing' side

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-19 Thread DL Neil
=dn - Original Message - From: "Hank Marquardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Francesco Gallarotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 19 January 2002 13:01 Subject: Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP > Hmm, well I'm 20 years removed

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-19 Thread Hank Marquardt
Hmm, well I'm 20 years removed from college at this point, but I can relate somewhat to the issue ... the tail end of my college life was when the IBM PC was introduced and I can assure you there were no classes in 'small systems' of any kind despite the fact that many could see the future --- Ce

Re: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-18 Thread Erik Price
Where I went to school (UMass Amherst), they primarily use Java and C/C++. The reason has been cited that the skills learned in programming with these languages are scalable to many other languages, including PHP, and thus form a solid foundation from which other programming skills can evolve

RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-17 Thread Robert Covell
They are trying to prepare you for what "they believe" businesses want. What will give you the best opportunity to get a job once out of college. When I was in college our teachers sat down with the businesses that came to campus for recruiting and asked "What should we be teaching to suit your ne

RE: [PHP] Computer Science and PHP

2002-01-17 Thread Jason Murray
> Why PHP is so not popular in the computer science teaching area? Well, here at RMIT in Melbourne Australia they're teaching all the first year students PHP... Jason -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [E