Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-25 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:35 AM, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, that doesn't mean that you can't patent your idea -- and that's > the best protection I know. That is, until I finish development of the CodeCondom[TM]. Just cover the electric plugs to every computer of every devel

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-24 Thread tedd
At 8:44 PM +0100 2/23/08, Per Jessen wrote: tedd wrote: If a client hires me to do something, whatever code I write is his -- that's simple enough. Tedd - the world is not limited to PHP contractors. Think about people writing products that they sell. Been there, done that for a long ti

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-23 Thread Larry Garfield
On Saturday 23 February 2008, Per Jessen wrote: > Nathan Rixham wrote: > > Protecting source: I've got a very simple view point on this, I use > > linux servers, I can go into the source of everything on the entire > > machine and modify or copy it, > > How about Acrobat Reader or ATI graphics driv

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-23 Thread Per Jessen
Nathan Rixham wrote: > Protecting source: I've got a very simple view point on this, I use > linux servers, I can go into the source of everything on the entire > machine and modify or copy it, How about Acrobat Reader or ATI graphics drivers? There's plenty of closed source products about on L

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-23 Thread Per Jessen
tedd wrote: > If a client hires me to do something, whatever code I write is his -- > that's simple enough. > Tedd - the world is not limited to PHP contractors. Think about people writing products that they sell. Also, it's usually not the code that matter as such, it's the algorithm or the

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread tedd
At 10:48 AM -0500 2/22/08, Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 09:57 -0500, tedd wrote: >> >> So, my advice -- write good code, pick up your check, and move one to >> the next client. Stop worrying about protecting your code and hope >> that you get good enough that someone wants

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 16:04 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:49 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: > >> One further point: > >> I develop on a windows server 2003 machine > > > > I think Mr. T. said it best... "I pity da fool!" > > > > Cheers, > > Rob. >

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Nathan Rixham
Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:49 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: One further point: I develop on a windows server 2003 machine I think Mr. T. said it best... "I pity da fool!" Cheers, Rob. Indeed, purely because I need to check functionality in IIS and indeed layout in IE *po

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:49 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: > > One further point: > > I develop on a windows server 2003 machine > > I think Mr. T. said it best... "I pity da fool!" Must be Friday. ;-P -- Da

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 15:49 +, Nathan Rixham wrote: > One further point: > I develop on a windows server 2003 machine I think Mr. T. said it best... "I pity da fool!" Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://ww

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Nathan Rixham
tedd wrote: At 9:42 AM -0500 2/22/08, Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 09:33 -0500, tedd wrote: At 3:43 AM +0530 2/22/08, Allan Fernandes wrote: >I am aware that reverse engineering can be done to every program, and no one >may bother to really take too much trouble to reverse e

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 10:01 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BAD IDEA BUSTER!!! Always backup your code so it's protected from > > crashes!! > > And here, I thought that backups were to recover from crashes, not > t

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 09:57 -0500, tedd wrote: > >> > >> So, my advice -- write good code, pick up your check, and move one to > >> the next client. Stop worrying about protecting your code and hope > >> that you get good enough that someone wants to steal it. > > > >BAD IDEA BUSTER!!! Always b

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Matty Sarro
I personally never sell my code... everything I create is released as open source under GPL. However I do sell support, and server management, and occasionally server hardware to run everything :o) (Richard Stallman actually gave me the idea a few years ago when I emailed him about ways to make a

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BAD IDEA BUSTER!!! Always backup your code so it's protected from > crashes!! And here, I thought that backups were to recover from crashes, not to "protect from" them. I learn something new every day. ;-P -

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread tedd
At 9:42 AM -0500 2/22/08, Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 09:33 -0500, tedd wrote: At 3:43 AM +0530 2/22/08, Allan Fernandes wrote: >I am aware that reverse engineering can be done to every program, and no one >may bother to really take too much trouble to reverse engineer it.

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 09:33 -0500, tedd wrote: > At 3:43 AM +0530 2/22/08, Allan Fernandes wrote: > >I am aware that reverse engineering can be done to every program, and no one > >may bother to really take too much trouble to reverse engineer it. All the > >same I do not want it to be as simple a

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread tedd
At 3:43 AM +0530 2/22/08, Allan Fernandes wrote: I am aware that reverse engineering can be done to every program, and no one may bother to really take too much trouble to reverse engineer it. All the same I do not want it to be as simple as a java decompiler wherein the code is regenerated from

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-22 Thread Allan Fernandes
h [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:36 AM > > > To: Allan Fernandes > > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP > > > > > > On Thu, February 21, 2008 6:29 am, Allan Fern

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-21 Thread Jason Pruim
al@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP On Thu, February 21, 2008 6:29 am, Allan Fernandes wrote: 1) Is there any method to protect source code of my applications even when deployed at the clients Server. Have a good, clear contract and relationship with the client. You can

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-21 Thread Matty Sarro
inal Message- > > From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:36 AM > > To: Allan Fernandes > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP > > > > On Thu, February 21, 2008 6:29 am,

RE: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-21 Thread Andrés Robinet
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:36 AM > To: Allan Fernandes > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP > > On Thu, February 21, 2008 6:29 am, Allan Fe

Re: [PHP] All Survey leading to PHP

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, February 21, 2008 6:29 am, Allan Fernandes wrote: > 1) Is there any method to protect source code of my applications even > when > deployed at the clients Server. Have a good, clear contract and relationship with the client. You can also attempt to "encode" them with any number of PHP enc