symbulos partners wrote:
Dear friends,
we would like to migrate a server where we host several websites (in virtual
hosting) to PHP 5 with Apache 2.
Technical support at the hosting provider told us there are still problems
about safety of threads on php 5 + Apache 2 (management of memory). They
wo
symbulos partners wrote:
> Jason Barnett wrote:
>> exercise for myself, but then again I don't need to either. ;) This
>> would also be something that would be a great benefit to share with the
>> PHP community if you decide to compile this list of thread-safe
>> extensions.
>
> If we could share
Jason Barnett wrote:
> exercise for myself, but then again I don't need to either. ;) This
> would also be something that would be a great benefit to share with the
> PHP community if you decide to compile this list of thread-safe
> extensions.
If we could share a bit of the effort with someone
Greg Donald wrote:
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:15:43 +, symbulos partners
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We know that. We understood all of that.
What we need to know is:
Please, do not assimilate me.
Who's going to clean up this Mt. Dew that I just shot out of my nose? *L*
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Plan on doing a LOT of testing -- My guesses on the probability of
thread-safety were just that: GUESSES
Thread-safe bugs are the kind of thing that can remain hidden for *YEARS*
or even *DECADES* and not get triggered but once in a million executions
of your scripts.
By definition, they rely on
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:15:43 +, symbulos partners
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We know that. We understood all of that.
>
> What we need to know is:
Please, do not assimilate me.
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Jason Barnett wrote:
> Symbulos Partners wrote:
> > We know that. We understood all of that.
> >
>
> Let me ask you this. Do you know what underlying libraries are associated
> with the extensions you want to use (in your list below)? If you do then you
> *should* be able to
Symbulos Partners wrote:
We know that. We understood all of that.
Let me ask you this. Do you know what underlying libraries are
associated with the extensions you want to use (in your list below)? If
you do then you *should* be able to google for each library individually
and see if that libr
We know that. We understood all of that.
What we need to know is:
1)Are php core function thread safe?
2)Does php have internal mechanisms in php for protecting thread safety
(memory leak, threads overwriting memory in use by another thread, blah,
blah)?
3)Are the function in this LIMITED LIST
* Symbulos Partners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Richard Lynch wrote:
> > If you re-read the previous emails from Rasmus, you will find that these
> > questions are already answered within them.
> >
> > So I'm going to go on at length here telling you (again) what you don't
> > want to hear.
>
> In my o
Richard Lynch wrote:
> If you re-read the previous emails from Rasmus, you will find that these
> questions are already answered within them.
>
> So I'm going to go on at length here telling you (again) what you don't
> want to hear.
In my opinion, the answer "some libraries are thread safe, some
symbulos partners wrote:
> Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> I thought I just explained that. The problem is that the dozens of
>> libraries you are likely to link into you Apache+PHP system may or may
>> not be threadsafe.
>
> We are only thinking of using standard libraries,that is the libraries
> which
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> I thought I just explained that. The problem is that the dozens of
> libraries you are likely to link into you Apache+PHP system may or may
> not be threadsafe.
We are only thinking of using standard libraries,that is the libraries which
allow us to access the functions
* Symbulos Partners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> We would really give preference to the possibility of using PHP 5, in order
> to use the new object model.
>
> Is Apache 1 + php 5 rock stable? How are performances?
I have no benchmarks, but PHP5 has showed itself to be at least as
stable as PHP4 on Apac
symbulos partners wrote:
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
As far as threading goes, it is simply not a good idea for a large
complex system.
I do not understand why, probably because I am not well prepared. Can you
explain me? As far as I know, threading should be a noticeable improvement
in case of large sy
We would really give preference to the possibility of using PHP 5, in order
to use the new object model.
Is Apache 1 + php 5 rock stable? How are performances?
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* Symbulos Partners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> >
> > As far as threading goes, it is simply not a good idea for a large
> > complex system.
>
>
> I do not understand why, probably because I am not well prepared. Can you
> explain me? As far as I know, threading should be a not
Symbulos Partners wrote:
There are 4 alternative solutions
0)php 5 + Apache 2
1)php 5 + Apache 2 pre-fork (not totally satisfactory, but better than have
a system that is unstable)
2)php 5 + Apache 1.3.33 (which is not totally satisfactory, less than 0,1 in
any case, but better than have a system
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>
> As far as threading goes, it is simply not a good idea for a large
> complex system.
I do not understand why, probably because I am not well prepared. Can you
explain me? As far as I know, threading should be a noticeable improvement
in case of large systems. Is there
symbulos partners wrote:
Symbulos Partners wrote:
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
You want to stay away from the threaded MPM's in Apache2.
Why?
Which versions would be recommended then? We would like to be able to use
the new PHP object model, and at the same time use features like the
possibility of runn
Symbulos Partners wrote:
> Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> You want to stay away from the threaded MPM's in Apache2.
>
> Why?
>
Which versions would be recommended then? We would like to be able to use
the new PHP object model, and at the same time use features like the
possibility of running scriping
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> You want to stay away from the threaded MPM's in Apache2.
Why?
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symbulos partners wrote:
Dear friends,
we would like to migrate a server where we host several websites (in virtual
hosting) to PHP 5 with Apache 2.
Technical support at the hosting provider told us there are still problems
about safety of threads on php 5 + Apache 2 (management of memory). They
wo
Dear friends,
we would like to migrate a server where we host several websites (in virtual
hosting) to PHP 5 with Apache 2.
Technical support at the hosting provider told us there are still problems
about safety of threads on php 5 + Apache 2 (management of memory). They
would propose to migrate
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