Re: [PHP] framework or not

2013-10-26 Thread Stuart Dallas
On 25 Oct 2013, at 15:40, Robert Cummings wrote: > On 13-10-25 10:17 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: >> On 25 Oct 2013, at 15:01, Robert Cummings wrote: >> >>> On 13-10-24 09:41 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: On 10/23/2013 08:51 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: > [snip] a bitter rant[/snip] >

Re: [PHP] framework or not

2013-10-26 Thread Robert Cummings
On 13-10-24 09:41 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: On 10/23/2013 08:51 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] a bitter rant[/snip] Dang Larry - bad night? That wasn't a bitter rant. You haven't seen me bitter. :-) That was "tough love" to the OP. I don't see a reason to pussyfoot around the orig

Re: [PHP] framework or not

2013-10-25 Thread Stuart Dallas
On 25 Oct 2013, at 15:01, Robert Cummings wrote: > On 13-10-24 09:41 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: >> On 10/23/2013 08:51 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: >>> [snip] a bitter rant[/snip] >>> >>> Dang Larry - bad night? >> >> That wasn't a bitter rant. You haven't seen me bitter. :-) That was >> "

Re: [PHP] framework or not

2013-10-24 Thread Marc Guay
> I'm looking forward to the day that I'll know everything and can stop all > this learning nonsense. Sounds like the attitude most people take when they sit down to a keyboard. (Ref: http://xkcd.com/386/) Off-topic is the new on-topic Marc -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) T

Re: [PHP] framework or not

2013-10-23 Thread Larry Martell
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote: > On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Larry Martell > wrote: > > Was it Brian Kernighan who said the 3 rules of programming are: > > > > 1. Keep it simple. > > 2. Build it in stages. > > 3. Let someone else do the hard part. > > Sounds good to me.

Re: [PHP] framework or not

2013-10-23 Thread Larry Martell
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote: > On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:04 AM, Robert Cummings > wrote: > > > On 13-10-22 05:38 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: > >> If you need more convincing, I will cite Fred Brooks: > >> > >> http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~cah/G51ISS/Documents/NoSilverBullet.html

Re: [PHP] framework or not

2013-10-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On 13-10-22 05:38 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: If you need more convincing, I will cite Fred Brooks: http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~cah/G51ISS/Documents/NoSilverBullet.html Excellent article, thanks for the pointer. So many assertions have stood the test of time thus far. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Dis