[PHP] zend framework & getIdentity

2013-07-17 Thread Dan Joseph
Hey Folks, Getting a weird error... Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'Zend_Session_Exception' with message 'Zend_Session::start() - /product/Messenger-dev/Messenger/library/Zend/Session.php(Line:480): Error #2 Class __PHP_Incomplete_Class has no unserializer Array' in /product/Messenger-dev/Messen

[PHP] Zend Framework Tutorial

2012-01-30 Thread Yuri Yarlei
Hi people, I wanna share the tutorial about Zend Framework there I'm doing http://www.yuriyarlei.net/en/zend-framework-how-to-develop-introduction Att, Yuri Yarlei. Java - OCJP 6 ZCE - Zend Certified Engineer for php 5.3 www.yuriyarlei.net/en PHP, JAVA, CSS, ORACLE 10g, PostgreSQL;

Re: [PHP] Zend Amf and Drupal?

2011-10-30 Thread Lars Nielsen
Silence ? I havn't got any responses from drupal.org, and i think its very quiet here too? Should I start to analyze the code to understand the inner workings? Can anyone give some advise on where to get more information? Or... is there another proven way to communicate between Flash and PHP/D

[PHP] Zend Amf and Drupal?

2011-10-29 Thread Lars Nielsen
Hey List, I am making a webservice in Drupal with AMF Zend to provide some methods to a Flash app. I have now managed to use standard Drupal services (node,user and files) and I have made my own method to create users. But! ... When I try to pass on arguments from Flash to Drupal it fails. It says

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework - getParam() Question

2011-03-12 Thread Dan Joseph
Howdy, Mid, Net, thanks for the tips! I actually didn't have the proper .htaccess settings that ZF wanted, and I needed to add a router :) Thank you both! -Dan On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Midhun Girish wrote: > You can also try routing in zend.. > http://codeutopia.net/blog/2007/11/16/r

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework - getParam() Question

2011-03-11 Thread Midhun Girish
You can also try routing in zend.. http://codeutopia.net/blog/2007/11/16/routing-and-complex-urls-in-zend-framework/ Midhun Girish On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:16 AM, NetEmp wrote: > Hi Dan > > One method for this is to use URL Rewriting (which can be implemented on > Apache using htaccess). >

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework - getParam() Question

2011-03-11 Thread NetEmp
Hi Dan One method for this is to use URL Rewriting (which can be implemented on Apache using htaccess). Through URL Rewriting you can first make the following URL: http://www.website.com/article-clean-url to internally behave as the following: http://w

[PHP] Zend Framework - getParam() Question

2011-03-11 Thread Dan Joseph
Hi Everyone, Zend Framework getParam question I'm trying to get a value from the url... I know how to grab: http;//www.website.com/index/user/1 that's the index controller, $this->_getParam('user'); (value = 1).. What I'd like to be able to grab is just off one thing from the url... examp

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-24 Thread Adi Mutu
Ok, Everything's clear now.Thanks for the help and sorry for incoveniences.

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-24 Thread Daniel Brown
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 14:17, Adi Mutu wrote: > > I have asked also there..but no answerBut honestly i don't understand > why you have reccomended me that forum..because i thougt these mailing > lists are about php developing... Because this is about developing in PHP in ge

RE: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-24 Thread Adi Mutu
I have asked also there..but no answerBut honestly i don't understand why you have reccomended me that forum..because i thougt these mailing lists are about php developing... Thanks,A.

RE: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-24 Thread Tommy Pham
>From the search results, you'd see several links http://forums.zend.com. I'd say that's the best place to ask ;) From: Adi Mutu [mailto:adi_mut...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:07 PM To: Tommy Pham Cc: php-general@lists.php.net; Daniel Brown Subject: Re:

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Adi Mutu
Of course I have tried, but nothing ... The results or only aboyt emalloc/pemalloc familly. Nothing lower level about how these 2 functions are implemented or about the mm_heap struct of mm_block.

RE: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Tommy Pham
> -Original Message- > From: Adi Mutu [mailto:adi_mut...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:14 PM > To: Daniel Brown > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager > > > > I have looked at the sources, but it's sti

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Adi Mutu
I have looked at the sources, but it's still not very clear to me Where should I ask this question than.? Sorry for the inconveniences! Thanks,

Re: [PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 09:10, Adi Mutu wrote: > Hello, > > This is my first mail here, i hope it's ok. > Can somebody give me any hint to some docs about how the Zend mm works? I > can't > find any references on the net. > I'm not interested in only emalloc, efree etc. but at an even lower l

[PHP] Zend memory manager

2011-01-23 Thread Adi Mutu
Hello, This is my first mail here, i hope it's ok. Can somebody give me any hint to some docs about how the Zend mm works? I can't find any references on the net. I'm not interested in only emalloc, efree etc. but at an even lower level i mean about functions like _zend_mm_alloc_int, _zend_

[PHP] Zend Memory Manager

2011-01-23 Thread Adi Mutu
Hello, This is my first mail here, i hope it's ok. Can somebody give me any hint to some docs about how the Zend mm works? I can't find any references on the net. I'm not interested in only emalloc, efree etc. but at an even lower level i mean about functions like _zend_mm_alloc_int, _zen

RE: [PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability

2010-10-13 Thread Daevid Vincent
> -Original Message- > From: Thijs Lensselink [mailto:d...@lenss.nl] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:26 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain > Scripting Vulnerability > > On 10/13/2010 12:19 AM, Daevid

Re: [PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability

2010-10-13 Thread Richard Quadling
On 13 October 2010 05:25, Thijs Lensselink wrote: >  On 10/13/2010 12:19 AM, Daevid Vincent wrote: >> >> http://80vul.com/Zend%20studio/Zend%20studio%20location%20Cross.htm >> >> Interesting. A co-worker and I were JUST noticing how our PHPDoc comments >> were being parsed pretty much verbatim inc

Re: [PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability

2010-10-12 Thread Thijs Lensselink
On 10/13/2010 12:19 AM, Daevid Vincent wrote: http://80vul.com/Zend%20studio/Zend%20studio%20location%20Cross.htm Interesting. A co-worker and I were JUST noticing how our PHPDoc comments were being parsed pretty much verbatim including tags and links and stuff and thought, "wow, that's stupid

[PHP] Zend studio location Cross-Domain Scripting Vulnerability

2010-10-12 Thread Daevid Vincent
http://80vul.com/Zend%20studio/Zend%20studio%20location%20Cross.htm Interesting. A co-worker and I were JUST noticing how our PHPDoc comments were being parsed pretty much verbatim including tags and links and stuff and thought, "wow, that's stupid, that's just a XSS or injection waiting to happ

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread chris h
n't know > what the -> was for... > > > -Original Message- > > From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:dae...@daevid.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:01 PM > > To: 'David Harkness' > > Cc: 'PHP-General' > > Subjec

RE: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread Daevid Vincent
Sorry wrong thread. Damnit. I meant that link for the guy that didn't know what the -> was for... > -Original Message- > From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:dae...@daevid.com] > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:01 PM > To: 'David Harkness' > Cc: '

RE: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread Daevid Vincent
http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.basic.php > -Original Message- > From: David Harkness [mailto:davi...@highgearmedia.com] > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:59 AM > To: rquadl...@googlemail.com > Cc: chris h; PHP-General > Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend framewor

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread David Harkness
We use part of Zend MVC (the dispatcher, controllers, and view scripts) here and a lot of the other facilities such as the autoloader, config, etc. and are very happy so far. As long as you design your application with an eye toward portability, you won't be tied to ZF. For example, put all of your

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-10 Thread Richard Quadling
On 10 September 2010 02:33, chris h wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm starting a new project and I'm thinking about building it on Zend > framework and possibly Zend server.  I've only used the framework slightly > and I've never really used Zend server.  That being said I hear that the > framework is p

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-09 Thread Joshua Kehn
Chris- While I find Zend to be more of a wonderful set of libraries then a framework, it does do both and is a good introduction. I do most of my framework coding on CodeIgniter though. Regards, -JOsh Joshua Kehn | josh.k...@gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com

[PHP] Zend framework

2010-09-09 Thread chris h
Hello all, I'm starting a new project and I'm thinking about building it on Zend framework and possibly Zend server. I've only used the framework slightly and I've never really used Zend server. That being said I hear that the framework is pretty decent to work with. I want something that is st

[PHP] Zend Framework Ebook

2010-05-14 Thread Brandon Rampersad
Hello, does anyone have any zend framework 1.10 ebook recomendations. -- A Brandon_R Production

Re: [PHP] Zend DB Table - WHERE as OR?

2010-04-09 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Dan Joseph wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm trying to figure out if something is even an option with the Zend > Framework.  We use the DB Table stuff.  I don't see it in the manual, so I > figured I'd ask you all... > > I have: > > $select = $table->select()->where( "h

Re: [PHP] Zend DB Table - WHERE as OR?

2010-04-09 Thread Dan Joseph
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Ballard wrote: > Try this: > > $select = $table->select()->where( "home_team_id = ?", $home_team_id ) > ->orWhere( "away_team_id = ?", > $away_team_id ); > > Perfect...thank you! -- -Dan Joseph www.canishosting.com - Unlim

[PHP] Zend DB Table - WHERE as OR?

2010-04-09 Thread Dan Joseph
Hi Everyone, I'm trying to figure out if something is even an option with the Zend Framework. We use the DB Table stuff. I don't see it in the manual, so I figured I'd ask you all... I have: $select = $table->select()->where( "home_team_id = ?", $home_team_id )

Re: [PHP] Zend debugger doesn't work

2010-01-19 Thread Jochem Maas
Op 1/18/10 10:38 AM, Ali Asghar Toraby Parizy schreef: > Hi > I have installed php 5.3.1 (with thread safety = on) recently And I I would try without thread safety to start with, 'std' setup uses the pre-fork model which doesn't need it and *may* cause probs. [fast]CGI doesn't need thread safety e

[PHP] Zend debugger doesn't work

2010-01-18 Thread Ali Asghar Toraby Parizy
Hi I have installed php 5.3.1 (with thread safety = on) recently And I tried to install zend debugger yesterday. I downloaded zend debugger extension from http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/server-debugger/ But I didn't find dll module for 5.3.x release. So I tried dll file in 5_2_x_comp folder. When I

Re: [PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-20 Thread Jochem Maas
Brian Dunning schreef: > I should mention that I did try the ionCube online encoder, which I > think is a great idea... but its runtimes failed to load on both of my > test systems, requiring editing of php.ini. That's over the top for my > users. I need something that's rock-solid and that will ne

Re: [PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-16 Thread Thodoris
I should mention that I did try the ionCube online encoder, which I think is a great idea... but its runtimes failed to load on both of my test systems, requiring editing of php.ini. That's over the top for my users. I need something that's rock-solid and that will never require my users to h

Re: [PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-16 Thread Brian Dunning
I should mention that I did try the ionCube online encoder, which I think is a great idea... but its runtimes failed to load on both of my test systems, requiring editing of php.ini. That's over the top for my users. I need something that's rock-solid and that will never require my users to

[PHP] Zend Guard/Optimizer alternatives?

2009-02-16 Thread Brian Dunning
Is there a cheaper alternative to Guard/Optimizer? I have a single small PHP file that is part of a larger solution I sell, and I want it to be protected - and it has to be a runtime so it will run on anyone's standard PHP server. Zend's $600 was a little bit of sticker shock. Any alternati

[PHP] Zend Framework and IIS

2009-01-30 Thread Andrew Ballard
Is anyone running Zend Framework under IIS? If so, how do you have it configured? (ISAPI versus FastCGI, etc.) Do you use any code optimizers? The reason I ask is because we set it up on a couple servers where I work and it is dreadfully slow. Just to render a basic page with no data connection (t

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 00:06 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:17:51AM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >The pages are s

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 23:54 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:20:16AM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > > > > > > Incidentally, I would differ from the reviewer in the link above only in > > > this respect: He maint

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Kevin Waterson
WRT Frameworks.. before I rant, I should declare myself as an ex-consultant to Zend. I have used most of the more popular frameworks, and in my current employment am using Zend Framework. All of the frameworks I have used, have had some good features, and some poorly implemented ones. This, I be

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Murray
Hi Daevid, Your included db.inc.php file contains what appears to be a very strict injunction against people on this list making use of it. In particular, these lines: #--- # # Confidential - Property of Symcell Corporation # Do not

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:17:51AM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > > > > > >The pages are significantly slower than straight PHP by orders of > > >magnitude: [

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:20:16AM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > > > > Incidentally, I would differ from the reviewer in the link above only in > > this respect: He maintains that every line of code adds time. While this > > is true, I be

Re: Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread jcorry
I think I'm going to stick with objects generated by POG, PEAR classes where they can save me time and Smarty templates for display. Glad we had this little fireside chat before I started on my next project with an ambition to use some fancy new framework. You guys saved me what sounds like

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Daevid Vincent
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 13:52 -0500, Sam Stelfox wrote: > Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > > > The pages are significantly slower than straight PHP by orders of > > magnitude: http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=315 > > > > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001198.html > > I know this blog isn't spe

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Sam Stelfox
Daevid Vincent wrote: > > The pages are significantly slower than straight PHP by orders of > magnitude: http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=315 > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001198.html I know this blog isn't specifically about PHP but he makes a good general point that can be applied to thi

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 19:37 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: > On Thursday 15 January 2009 17:45:35 Robert Cummings wrote: > > > > > > > Hell, yes, signed to from start to end. > > > > > > After RoR, PHP guys (including Zend) goes nuts. > > > Every one eat his brains to develop RoR like Framework. >

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Sancar Saran
On Thursday 15 January 2009 17:45:35 Robert Cummings wrote: > > > > Hell, yes, signed to from start to end. > > > > After RoR, PHP guys (including Zend) goes nuts. > > Every one eat his brains to develop RoR like Framework. > > What are you smoking? I like my framework the way it is. I'm sure

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 17:34 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: > On Wednesday 14 January 2009 23:39:02 Daevid Vincent wrote: > > Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or "not to framework" > > debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience > > with using frameworks. I was f

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Sancar Saran
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 23:39:02 Daevid Vincent wrote: > Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or "not to framework" > debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience > with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and it > was so cumbersome

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Phpster
On Jan 15, 2009, at 10:19 AM, "Boyd, Todd M." wrote: -Original Message- From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:18 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't. ---8&l

RE: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
> -Original Message- > From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:18 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't. > ---8<--- > I agree and disagree. I agre

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:57:42AM +0300, Usamah M. Ali wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster > wrote: > > > If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend > > CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and > > they are pretty good), you'

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Eric Butera
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Usamah M. Ali wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster > wrote: > >> If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend >> CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and >> they are pretty good), you'll probably

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Edgar da Silva (Fly2k)
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:03 -0200, Edgar da Silva (Fly2k) wrote: >> The question is interesting. >> >> I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility >> forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until 5.3 or 6? > >

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:03 -0200, Edgar da Silva (Fly2k) wrote: > The question is interesting. > > I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility > forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until 5.3 or 6? I think once PHP6 comes out we'll find that some PHP4 idiosyncra

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Edgar da Silva (Fly2k)
The question is interesting. I do another question: Will PHP5 support PHP4 backward compatibility forever? Ok I'm rediculous, forever not, but, until 5.3 or 6? I really don't know how CI thinks about evolution, but I'm very curious why don't use the new features that provide good evolution? "It'

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:57 +0300, Usamah M. Ali wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster > wrote: > > > If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend > > CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and > > they are pretty good), you'll prob

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > > Incidentally, I would differ from the reviewer in the link above only in > this respect: He maintains that every line of code adds time. While this > is true, I believe it's the number of files which have to be opened > which drags down fr

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:17 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > >Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or "not to framework" > >debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with > >using fr

RE: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-15 Thread Daevid Vincent
refer, then use it as a reference to see how I do things and re-write your own ;-) d > -Original Message- > From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:01 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend (or other)

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:47 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings > > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cum

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings > > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > > >> On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-15 Thread Ewen Cumming
I think Daevid has some valid points although I think frameworks still have a lot of value, I've recently learned to use the CakePHP framework and have been happy with the development time improvements. But more then that I've found it has made my applications more extensible and flexible. As to t

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Usamah M. Ali
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Paul M Foster wrote: > If you're going to go with a prebuilt framework, I'd recommend > CodeIgniter for your first time out. If the docs look good to you (and > they are pretty good), you'll probably do fine with it. It's about the > lightest weight platform out t

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:50:25PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > >OMG, and don't get me started on ORM. What a bloat that is. The amount of >query overhead is rediculous. All these stupid objects for even the >simplest of 'glue tables'. Straight SQL, optimized for your query and th

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Phpster
Core files are what my plans include too. Bastien Sent from my iPod On Jan 14, 2009, at 9:26 PM, "Kyle Terry" wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Paul M Foster >wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Phpster
For what it's worth, you are on my good guys list. Coming. From a Dba background I am in the camp of everything is a trade off. Ease of use for speed, functionality for complexity and so on. My two cents: zend has an advantage because you can use the bits and pieces without the need to ha

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Kyle Terry
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > >Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or "not to framework" > >debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience > with > >using fr

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:39:02PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: >Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or "not to framework" >debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with >using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and it was so

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Kyle Terry
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > > > Lol, on your resumé page, the popup says you're not a Java man, but > then > > > the actual resumé says you are... :p > > No. I wrote Java for 3.5 years at WildTangent, a company I founded as > employee #2 back in 1998, and left onc

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
> > Lol, on your resumé page, the popup says you're not a Java man, but then > > the actual resumé says you are... :p No. I wrote Java for 3.5 years at WildTangent, a company I founded as employee #2 back in 1998, and left once I felt it was starting to become sketchy and we had grown to over 25

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Eric Butera wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera wrote: >>> >>> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings >>> > wrote:

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings >> > wrote: >> > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wr

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Kyle Terry
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:47 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera > wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cumming

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:47 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings > > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cum

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:59 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:30:59PM -0500, John Corry wrote: > > > Well, bummer. > > > > I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both > > immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the > > applications I

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 14:28 -0800, Kyle Terry wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings > > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > > >> On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrot

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
If anything this strengthens my point... First of all, that is my PERSONAL site (notice it is my NAME), so it is NOT enterprise or SaaS. Second it uses the www.winlike.net Javascript FRAMEWORK (which I heavily manipulated in PHP to make the menu dynamic, adding a tertiary menu level and various

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:30:59PM -0500, John Corry wrote: > Well, bummer. > > I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both > immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the > applications I build today. > > For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier f

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Kyle Terry
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Eric Butera wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings > wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > >> On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > >> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent > wrote

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: >> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: >> > > http://daevid.com >> > >> > "It appears your browser does

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:03 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > > http://daevid.com > > > > > > "It appears your brows

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:01 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > http://daevid.com > > > > "It appears your browser does not support some of the advanced > > features this site requir

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 16:50 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > http://daevid.com > > "It appears your browser does not support some of the advanced > features this site requires." > > That is pretty enteprisey! ;D I got the same message... 200

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 13:39 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or "not to framework" > debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience > with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and > it was so cumbersome and

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 13:39 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or "not to framework" > debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience > with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and > it was so cumbersome and

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > http://daevid.com "It appears your browser does not support some of the advanced features this site requires." That is pretty enteprisey! ;D -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsu

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:30 PM, John Corry wrote: > Well, bummer. > > I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both > immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the > applications I build today. > > For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier framework to

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Skip Evans
John Corry wrote: For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier framework to use that will streamline the development process from the beginning? I've been using my own I developed from the ground up for the past couple years, but have recently looked at cakePHP and I think it might b

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.

2009-01-14 Thread Daevid Vincent
Not to start a Holy War (as these "to framework" or "not to framework" debates often turn into), but I personally had a horrible experience with using frameworks. I was forced to use Symfony at my last job and it was so cumbersome and slow to do even the simplest things. The whole MVC thing can be

Re: [PHP] Zend (or other) Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread John Corry
Well, bummer. I *seriously* need to divine a way to increase my efficiency both immediately and for the long term as I maintain tomorrow the applications I build today. For the new-to-frameworks, is there a better/easier framework to use that will streamline the development process from the begin

Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread Eric Butera
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:36 PM, wrote: > I've been reading about these great new 'frameworks' for PHP development. > > The most similar experience I have so far is using PEAR/Smarty in > application development. > > I am becoming very interested in adding one (or more) of these frameworks to > m

[PHP] Zend Framework...where to start?

2009-01-14 Thread jcorry
I've been reading about these great new 'frameworks' for PHP development. The most similar experience I have so far is using PEAR/Smarty in application development. I am becoming very interested in adding one (or more) of these frameworks to my work existence. I'm leaning toward the Zend

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2008-12-24 Thread Al
Richard Heyes wrote: 2008/12/24 Al : I've not given it much thought, so far. But, am curious about what you folks think about it. Anyone with experience have a comment? On what? The Zend Framework? Sorry, I wasn't clear. Anyone with experience using the Zend framework, in general or an

Re: [PHP] Zend framework

2008-12-24 Thread Richard Heyes
2008/12/24 Al : > I've not given it much thought, so far. > > But, am curious about what you folks think about it. > > Anyone with experience have a comment? On what? The Zend Framework? -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated December 20

[PHP] Zend framework

2008-12-24 Thread Al
I've not given it much thought, so far. But, am curious about what you folks think about it. Anyone with experience have a comment? Al.. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

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