Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Price
Hmm... can you point out to them that there's a similarity between using an external style sheet and using header/footer includes? And that as a coder, it would be your responsibility to maintain these include files, not theirs? Personally, I think .css external style sheets are awesome -- t

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Fred
Maybe you have never had to deal with a dreamweaver created web page, but it deposits little javascript code all over the page for decoration. Apparently the dreamweaver designers pick components like rollover menu images etc and dreamweaver gladly disperses the javascript code throughout the docu

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Mark
of what I'm saying. >- Original Message - >From: "Mike Eheler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:28 PM >Subject: Re: [PHP] Working with designers... > > >> LOL. >> >> Us

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Jim Lucas
well, the class tag in the tr won't work with ns6 , but fortunately for you ( sigh ) ns 6 does include the div tag. - Original Message - From: "Mike Eheler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Mike Eheler
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: [PHP] Working with designers... > > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:00:09 -0800, Fred wrote: > >>Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Jim Lucas
hope you don't plan to use that example table in netscape 4.x - Original Message - From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Working with designers... O

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Mark
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:00:09 -0800, Fred wrote: > >Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >well, you don't have to wade through all that html, just put an >include() in there to a file that has all the php in it. then >dreamweaver should leave it al

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Fred
Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... well, you don't have to wade through all that html, just put an include() in there to a file that has all the php in it. then dreamweaver should leave it alone. Huh? Obviously the logic can be included, but t

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Steve Osborne
As a designer and a coder, I have always found that it is easiest to have the layout of the page done before adding the dynamic content. If the layout is done correctly, it should not be necessary to put in sample data that has to be removed after. After joining the workforce, as a database prog

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Mark
well, you don't have to wade through all that html, just put an include() in there to a file that has all the php in it. then dreamweaver should leave it alone. really if they don't want to chop the files up into header/footer that shouldn't bother you, it makes their job harder since they have t

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Fred
Yikes! You mean they don't use a text editor to for html? Seriously, you do have two choices here and I certainly prefer the one suggested below. You may have to talk to the project manager about the designer's refusal to allow thier precious dreamweaver source files to be chopped up. On the o

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Mike Eheler
They sound like good ideas, with one quisp.. the sites are currently being designed in *shudder* Dreamweaver. They absolutely refuse to chop files up into header/footer includes, and they want to be able to do all their colour customisation through their beloved .css files. Mike Jimtronic wr

Re: [PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread jimtronic
I try to seperate the php code from the html as much as possible. So, if a page is dynamic, have php figure out the dynamic parts first, put them into variables such as $html, or $pull_down_menu, or whatever. Then all that needs to replaced in the html is that section. HTML coders aren't dumb

[PHP] Working with designers...

2001-12-18 Thread Mike Eheler
Hi There, I'm looking for some community feedback on being a coder working with designers. Techniques that work that allow my php-inept page/graphic designer comrade make changes to the layout of the page without destroying my code, or requiring me to make any changes whatsoever. Or what is t