Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-31 Thread Adam Richardson
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Marco Behnke wrote: > > 1. If you have code using static methods and members and use phpunit for > testing it, you have to either make sure, that everything is properly > resetted after use OR have to run phpunit in a mode where every test is run > in a single php

Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-31 Thread Marco Behnke
Am 31.10.12 18:13, schrieb Adam Richardson: > While OOP is one way to approach programming, it's not the only way. Even > Rasmus has said he leans procedurally: > http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/38-The-no-framework-PHP-MVC-framework.html Found another interesting discussion on that topic: http://

Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-31 Thread Marco Behnke
Am 31.10.12 18:13, schrieb Adam Richardson: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:33 AM, ma...@behnke.biz wrote: > >> In times of testability and several design patters, the use of static >> calls is >> really outdated. >> I understand that you can read and write the invocations of the methods >> much >> fa

Re: Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-31 Thread Adam Richardson
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:33 AM, ma...@behnke.biz wrote: > > In times of testability and several design patters, the use of static > calls is > really outdated. > I understand that you can read and write the invocations of the methods > much > faster, but you should think more to the future on th

Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-31 Thread ma...@behnke.biz
Johannes Reichardt hat am 30. Oktober 2012 um 16:37 geschrieben: > > In times of testability and several design patters, the use of static calls > > is > > really outdated. > > I understand that you can read and write the invocations of the methods much > > faster, but you should think more to t

Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-30 Thread Lester Caine
Johannes Reichardt wrote: In times of testability and several design patters, the use of static calls is really outdated. I understand that you can read and write the invocations of the methods much faster, but you should think more to the future on that point. I am not sure if that is true for

Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-30 Thread Johannes Reichardt
In times of testability and several design patters, the use of static calls is really outdated. I understand that you can read and write the invocations of the methods much faster, but you should think more to the future on that point. I am not sure if that is true for TURBOPY. It has been "organi

Re: Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-30 Thread ma...@behnke.biz
Sebastian Krebs hat am 30. Oktober 2012 um 16:20 geschrieben: > 2012/10/30 ma...@behnke.biz > > > Ok, I can take that point. I haven't installed anything on a shared host > > for a > > while. Always working with VServers. > > > > And if you want to take your job serious, thats definitely the way

Re: Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-30 Thread ma...@behnke.biz
Lester Caine hat am 30. Oktober 2012 um 11:07 geschrieben: > >> And why PHP 5.2? > > Why not? With some tweaks it would work on PHP4 but for the sake of security > > it uses some filter_var methods that are 5.2 specific. > And since 60% of the world is still stuck with ISP provided hosting on PH

Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-30 Thread Lester Caine
Johannes Reichardt wrote: And why PHP 5.2? Why not? With some tweaks it would work on PHP4 but for the sake of security it uses some filter_var methods that are 5.2 specific. And since 60% of the world is still stuck with ISP provided hosting on PHP5.2 or less it does 'widen the market' ... -

Re: Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-30 Thread Johannes Reichardt
From what I see most of your concepts are not up to date of how you would do things now. This starts with simple "leave brackets on if else single line conditions" which is from my point of view a no go and ends with using static calls instead of instances. Thank you for your feedback. Especiall

Re: [PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-27 Thread Marco Behnke
Am 27.10.12 16:22, schrieb Johannes Reichardt: > Hi developers, > > I would like to invite you to test a public beta of the hybrid nosql > PHP framework with IDE > that has been developed by me within the last 10 years (don't be > afraid, most time it was rebuilt > from scratch to make it more simp

[PHP] TURBOPY cloud framework + IDE beta available NOW

2012-10-27 Thread Johannes Reichardt
Hi developers, I would like to invite you to test a public beta of the hybrid nosql PHP framework with IDE that has been developed by me within the last 10 years (don't be afraid, most time it was rebuilt from scratch to make it more simple). It contains a lot of new concepts that probably ch