At 11:23 PM -0400 10/24/10, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:35:43PM -0400, tedd wrote:
At 4:54 PM -0400 10/21/10, Marc Guay wrote:
>Toilet seat. Up or down. Same thing? Sort of.
No, everything down (seat and top) is the rule in my house.
You should see how women often r
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:35:43PM -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 4:54 PM -0400 10/21/10, Marc Guay wrote:
> >Toilet seat. Up or down. Same thing? Sort of.
>
> No, everything down (seat and top) is the rule in my house.
>
> You should see how women often react when I tell them to put the top
> down
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> I read some place that the first one to mention Nazi's lose the
> argument.
> [/snip]
>
> Nah, it is just proof of, as mentioned before, Godwin's Law
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)
>
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[snip]
I read some place that the first one to mention Nazi's lose the
argument.
[/snip]
Nah, it is just proof of, as mentioned before, Godwin's Law
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)
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On 22 October 2010 17:35, tedd wrote:
> At 3:01 PM -0500 10/21/10, Jay Blanchard wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>> Orwellian!
>> [/snip]
>>
>> "Nazi's did it!"
>>
>> "Why?"
>>
>> "Top posting is bad!"
>
> I read some place that the first one to mention Nazi's lose the argument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
On 22 October 2010 13:59, Andy McKenzie wrote:
> There are
> already a few people on the list whose posts I just glance at to see
> if there's code, and skip if there's not.
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At 4:54 PM -0400 10/21/10, Marc Guay wrote:
Toilet seat. Up or down. Same thing? Sort of.
No, everything down (seat and top) is the rule in my house.
You should see how women often react when I tell them to put the top
down -- it's like my dog hearing a high note.
Cheers,
tedd
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At 3:01 PM -0500 10/21/10, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
Orwellian!
[/snip]
"Nazi's did it!"
"Why?"
"Top posting is bad!"
I read some place that the first one to mention Nazi's lose the argument.
Cheers,
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At 6:05 PM +0100 10/21/10, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
And thanks for remembering I'm a guy, been called a girl on this list
more than once! :p
Thanks,
Ash
You're not! :-)
Cheers,
tedd
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At 12:24 PM -0400 10/21/10, Paul M Foster wrote:
I dropped off a bit because I (rightfully) got boxed around when I made
some incorrect statements regarding obscure HTML/PHP points. I thought,
maybe I should shut up and just listen until I know more.
Paul
Paul:
IMO, that's not a good reason t
At 10:47 AM -0400 10/21/10, Daniel Brown wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings wrote:
I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts
have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|
Same here, but isn't it a bit eerie th
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> really makes me question remaining a member...it's been a close thing a
> few times in the last week.
> [/snip]
>
> $door = new door("large", "heavy", "swift");
> $door->open();
> $door->hitArse();
> $door->close();
>
> C'mon, the ru
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> really makes me question remaining a member...it's been a close thing a
> few times in the last week.
> [/snip]
>
> $door = new door("large", "heavy", "swift");
> $door->open();
> $door->hitArse();
> $door->close();
>
> C'mon, the ru
[snip]
really makes me question remaining a member...it's been a close thing a
few times in the last week.
[/snip]
$door = new door("large", "heavy", "swift");
$door->open();
$door->hitArse();
$door->close();
C'mon, the rudeness out weighs the good of this list?
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> PHP is basically the only language I deal with any more - and it's the
> only language I -want- to deal with. I hate to see basic semantics
> such as "top post you asshole" scare off fresh blood and create a
> hostile or otherwise discriminatory environment. Keep PHP alive and
> well, at least un
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:30:03 +0100, Ashley Sheridan
wrote:
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:25 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
Hey, Folks;
Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the
day:
it is one of the rules of this and all official php.net mailing
lists
that you must not top-p
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 19:18, Michael Shadle wrote:
> Don't let it die like Perl has! (ha, ha)
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
> Unfortunately, Michael, while I appreciate your analogy (rarely is
> something well-balanced between wit, truth, and vivid imagery enough
> to make me laugh at the mental picture), I must point out that, in
> this case, you're incorrect.
On 2010-10-21, at 6:24 PM, Michael Shadle wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
>
>> i've found top-posting to be useful in the corporate environment where the
>> people i'm working with are too ignorant to understand the rationale.
>> however, when you're working wit
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 18:24, Michael Shadle wrote:
>
> note, that i take the time to bottom-post and clean up emails when i
> have time, but if i don't, i don't. people discuss things for
> discussion, they don't discuss things because they care how it is
> placed. that's like getting a present
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Michael Shadle wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Nobbe
> wrote:
>
> > i've found top-posting to be useful in the corporate environment where
> the
> > people i'm working with are too ignorant to understand the rationale.
> > however, when you're w
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
> i've found top-posting to be useful in the corporate environment where the
> people i'm working with are too ignorant to understand the rationale.
> however, when you're working with programmers, i think the expectation is
> more than reason
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Michael Shadle wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Nathan Nobbe
> wrote:
>
> > what does syntax highlighting have to do w/ a mess of text that could be
> > sorted out by folks willing to take the extra 2 seconds to put their
> > thoughts at the bottom of a
Toilet seat. Up or down. Same thing? Sort of.
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Michael Shadle wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
>
>> what does syntax highlighting have to do w/ a mess of text that could be
>> sorted out by folks willing to take the extra 2 seconds to put their
>> thoughts at the bottom of a mail?
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
> what does syntax highlighting have to do w/ a mess of text that could be
> sorted out by folks willing to take the extra 2 seconds to put their
> thoughts at the bottom of a mail?
> i doubt there are any web-based lists that reorganize top-po
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Michael Shadle wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Nathan Nobbe
> wrote:
>
> > um, right, the whole point is that the conversations are not being viewed
> > through mail clients when people are finding them via search engines on
> the
> > web.
> > and some
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
> um, right, the whole point is that the conversations are not being viewed
> through mail clients when people are finding them via search engines on the
> web.
> and some mail clients are dumber than others, lol.
a lot of the time even the w
On 21 October 2010 21:01, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> Orwellian!
> [/snip]
>
> "Nazi's did it!"
!Godwin!
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[snip]
Orwellian!
[/snip]
"Nazi's did it!"
"Why?"
"Top posting is bad!"
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Ok, I agree with most of those points, but why should I, or anyone, have
to trim down someone else's 'signature', and I'm talking about these
silly ones which are 10 or 20 lines long stating 'If you have received
this email in error.blah, blah, blah'..surely, the banning of that,
along with
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael Shadle wrote:
> in fact, it's easier to read on mobile devices such as an iphone. it's
> also easier to reply.
>
> email clients like google will hide the common lines anyway.
>
> to me this comes on the heels of a presentation i just read about
> "there's
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Larry Martell
wrote:
> http://idallen.com/topposting.html
top posting is no big IMHO.
in fact, it's easier to read on mobile devices such as an iphone. it's
also easier to reply.
email clients like google will hide the common lines anyway.
to me this comes on
Let's adhere to the rules.
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On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
> sueandant wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm not familiatr with the term "top-post"; could you please explain?
>
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=top-post
>
>
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sueandant wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm not familiatr with the term "top-post"; could you please explain?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=top-post
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This is top-posting.
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 15:37, sueandant wrote:
>
> I'm not familiatr with the term "top-post"; could you please explain?
What you did, posting your message at the end of the email, is in
adherence with the rules.
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On 21 October 2010 16:25, Daniel Brown wrote:
* snip *
> The ultimate goal here isn't to start a flame war (or even any
> further discussion on the subject for that matter), but to point out
> that this is a RULE of the official community here, not a PREFERENCE.
>
If only the thread had ende
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM, sueandant wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm not familiatr with the term "top-post"; could you please explain?
http://idallen.com/topposting.html
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- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Brown"
To: "PHP General"
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject: [PHP] Reminder On Mailing List Rules
Hey, Folks;
Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the day:
it is one of the rules of t
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 12:14 -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47:53AM -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts
> > > have dwindled significa
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 11:58 -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:30:03PM +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >
> > I always bottom post when I'm replying from my computer, but when on the
> > move or at work, I'm only left with my Android, and the default email
> >
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 09:37:16AM -0600, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my
> > posts
> > > have dwindled sig
[snip]
I still hop on threads from time to time, just a lot more picky about
which
ones any more. >ducks<
[/snip]
I seem to go through phases, but I always read. I had gotten away from
everyday coding due to work needs (leading a team of PHP'ers) but have
always tried to keep learning. I may have
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47:53AM -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >
> > I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts
> > have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|
>
> Same here, b
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings
> wrote:
> >
> > I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my
> posts
> > have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|
>
> Same here, but is
On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings wrote:
>>
>> I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts
>> have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|
>
>Same here, but isn't it a
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 04:30:03PM +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
[snip]
>
> I always bottom post when I'm replying from my computer, but when on the
> move or at work, I'm only left with my Android, and the default email
> client doesn't allow reply positioning of any sort, so it's always
> top-
[snip]
.
[/snip]
Fondly remembers mailing list guidelines that used to go out about once
a week when someone would send them, including the section that said
something to the effect of;
"Why?"
"Top posting is bad!"
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On 21 October 2010 15:53, Bastien Koert wrote:
> Parenting ruins everything ;-)
Ideally, yes.
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings wrote:
>>
>> I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts
>> have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|
>
> Same here, but isn't it a
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:41, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> I can't speak for everyone here (or who is no longer here)... but my posts
> have dwindled significantly due to work and family time constraints :|
Same here, but isn't it a bit eerie that many of us hit that same
point almost simultan
On 10-10-21 10:25 AM, Daniel Brown wrote:
P.S. - Those of you who have been around for years will likely
recall with some fondness the level of respect, participation, and
quality of discussions this list once had; the degree of mutual
respect and camaraderie was palpable. If you're wonderi
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:34, Bastien Koert wrote:
>
> iphone has the same problem. Cutting and pasting is the only way that
> i have of dealing with it...and I do try to accommodate that when i
> can
I wonder if we have any lurking iPhone and/or Android app
developers here who would be will
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:37 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:30, Ashley Sheridan
> wrote:
> >
> > I always bottom post when I'm replying from my computer, but when on the
> > move or at work, I'm only left with my Android, and the default email
> > client doesn't allow r
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:30, Ashley Sheridan
wrote:
>
> I always bottom post when I'm replying from my computer, but when on the move
> or at work, I'm only left with my Android, and the default email client
> doesn't allow reply positioning of any sort, so it's always top-posting :(
>
> Does
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Ashley Sheridan
wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:25 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
>
>> Hey, Folks;
>>
>> Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the day:
>> it is one of the rules of this and all official php.net mailing lists
>> that you must
On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:25 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
> Hey, Folks;
>
> Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the day:
> it is one of the rules of this and all official php.net mailing lists
> that you must not top-post.
>
> For anyone wondering just one of the reaso
Hey, Folks;
Just a gentle reminder after watching things get worse by the day:
it is one of the rules of this and all official php.net mailing lists
that you must not top-post.
For anyone wondering just one of the reasons why we have this rule
in effect, tab through this thread in the
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