Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, March 30, 2007 11:54 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something.. if the intent is to have 'hidden' > fields that a user would end up submitting but a bot wouldn't.. that > wouldn't work very well. A bot could easily see the hidden fields and > submit them along with whate

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-31 Thread Tijnema !
On 3/31/07, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 3:33 PM -0400 3/30/07, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ah ok.. that makes a bit more sense. Even still.. anyone who's >going out of their way to program a bot to defeat your specific >CAPTCHA mechanism will probably notice the failure in testing. > >Unl

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-31 Thread tedd
At 3:33 PM -0400 3/30/07, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ah ok.. that makes a bit more sense. Even still.. anyone who's going out of their way to program a bot to defeat your specific CAPTCHA mechanism will probably notice the failure in testing. Unless you made a failure behave similar to a succ

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-31 Thread tedd
At 3:48 PM -0400 3/30/07, Jason Pruim wrote: On Mar 30, 2007, at 3:17 PM, tedd wrote: At 12:54 PM -0400 3/30/07, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe I'm missing something.. if the intent is to have 'hidden' fields that a user would end up submitting but a bot wouldn't.. that wouldn't work very

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-30 Thread Jason Pruim
On Mar 30, 2007, at 3:17 PM, tedd wrote: At 12:54 PM -0400 3/30/07, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe I'm missing something.. if the intent is to have 'hidden' fields that a user would end up submitting but a bot wouldn't.. that wouldn't work very well. A bot could easily see the hidden

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-30 Thread tg-php
Ah ok.. that makes a bit more sense. Even still.. anyone who's going out of their way to program a bot to defeat your specific CAPTCHA mechanism will probably notice the failure in testing. Unless you made a failure behave similar to a success but put them in a situation where ultimately they

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-30 Thread tedd
At 12:54 PM -0400 3/30/07, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe I'm missing something.. if the intent is to have 'hidden' fields that a user would end up submitting but a bot wouldn't.. that wouldn't work very well. A bot could easily see the hidden fields and submit them along with whatever othe

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-30 Thread Steve
Sorry for the really rough example. I just re-read my message and realized how much stuff (closing tags, etc) I forgot to include. The general idea should be fairly clear, though. ""Steve"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The point was to have the hidden fields tha

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-30 Thread Steve
The point was to have the hidden fields that the bot would populate and the user wouldn't. So for instance, let's use my example from before. (hideSpamCatcher is a reference to a javascript function that hides the spamcatcher div. Name: Password: Now, the user comes along and doesn

Re: [PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-30 Thread tg-php
Maybe I'm missing something.. if the intent is to have 'hidden' fields that a user would end up submitting but a bot wouldn't.. that wouldn't work very well. A bot could easily see the hidden fields and submit them along with whatever other data they were sending. If the intention is to trick

[PHP] Re: Alternative/Addition to using a CAPTCHA

2007-03-30 Thread Steve
I read something (I think on Slashdot) a while back about another method that could be used to avoid CAPTCHAs. Basically on top of your standard form field, you place some input fields in a javascript hidden div around your page conveniently named things like "email", "address", or "phone." Bec