Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-23 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Mon, 2012-07-23 at 13:31 -0500, Larry Garfield wrote: > Sales tax isn't the point with SOPA/PIPA. Thinks like the government > being able to force any site off the Internet at the ISP / DNS level on > the say-so of a private corporation are the point. And no, that's not a > defensible or a

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-23 Thread Larry Garfield
Sales tax isn't the point with SOPA/PIPA. Thinks like the government being able to force any site off the Internet at the ISP / DNS level on the say-so of a private corporation are the point. And no, that's not a defensible or acceptable position. Breaking the Internet to prop up industries

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-21 Thread With No Name
On Fri, July 20, 2012 10:04, Lester Caine wrote: > In Europe VAT is applied even on on-line sales. It is the likes of Amazon > shipping bulk stock from overseas 'clients' into European warehouses and > then supplying them without VAT added directly in Europe that is the > problem! How can I compet

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-20 Thread Lester Caine
Paul M Foster wrote: There are two sides to every problem and simply fighting for one >side is as bad. What is needed is a reasoned debate rather than >things like 'The Cat Signal' which personally I find as >objectionable as the laws it's complaining about! The real problem is the VAT tax its

RE: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-20 Thread Jeff Burcher
> -Original Message- > From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 4:05 AM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal > > Paul M Foster wrote: > > Here's another one: Th

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-20 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:04:30AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > Paul M Foster wrote: > >Here's another one: There are currently discussions in the U.S. Congress > >in favor of forcing internet vendors to charge sales tax on*all* sales, > >regardless of whether the vendor has a presence in that st

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-20 Thread Lester Caine
Paul M Foster wrote: Here's another one: There are currently discussions in the U.S. Congress in favor of forcing internet vendors to charge sales tax on*all* sales, regardless of whether the vendor has a presence in that state or not. Imagine having to file state sales tax returns in 50 states.

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 03:45:46PM -0400, Jeff Burcher wrote: > Hi, > > I have been out of the loop and just did some quick skimming of SOPA/PIPA to > see what all the fuss was about. PIPA seems a little vague, but SOPA seems > pretty straight forward, stop piracy of copyrighted materials. I don'

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Kris Craig wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Kris Craig wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > Btw. we were asked by the to

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Kris Craig
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Hannes Magnusson < hannes.magnus...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Kris Craig wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > Btw. we were asked by the to join the league as we were a big traffic

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Kris Craig wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >>> >>> >>> > Btw. we were asked by the to join the league as we were a big traffic >>> > source on the black out day. >>> > I don't know if Rasmus is on the webmaster list or not, but

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Kris Craig
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > >> > Btw. we were asked by the to join the league as we were a big traffic >> > source on the black out day. >> > I don't know if Rasmus is on the webmaster list or not, but we should cc >> > him, as he was the driving force behind us joinin

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
> > > > Btw. we were asked by the to join the league as we were a big traffic > > source on the black out day. > > I don't know if Rasmus is on the webmaster list or not, but we should cc > > him, as he was the driving force behind us joining the anti SOPA > movement. > > He is everywhere. > > But

RE: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Jeff Burcher
...@allredmetal.com > -Original Message- > From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:10 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal > > Jeff Burcher wrote: > > I have been out of

Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Lester Caine
Jeff Burcher wrote: I have been out of the loop and just did some quick skimming of SOPA/PIPA to see what all the fuss was about. PIPA seems a little vague, but SOPA seems pretty straight forward, stop piracy of copyrighted materials. I don't understand what is wrong with that? It depends on ho

RE: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Jeff Burcher
php.net; php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > > > 2012.07.19. 20:21, "Daniel Brown" ezt írta: > > > > > > > > Forwarding to

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > 2012.07.19. 20:21, "Daniel Brown" ezt írta: >> >> Forwarding to php-webmas...@lists.php.net, as it's not a "general >> user" issue where it pertains to php.net. >> >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Kris Craig wrote: >> > Hey guys, >>

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Kris Craig
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > 2012.07.19. 20:21, "Daniel Brown" ezt írta: > > > > > Forwarding to php-webmas...@lists.php.net, as it's not a "general > > user" issue where it pertains to php.net. > > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Kris Craig > wrote: > > >

[PHP] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP] The Cat Signal

2012-07-19 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
2012.07.19. 20:21, "Daniel Brown" ezt írta: > > Forwarding to php-webmas...@lists.php.net, as it's not a "general > user" issue where it pertains to php.net. > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Kris Craig wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > I just became aware of this: > > > > http://internetdefens