>
> While it's a joke, in all fairness, it does work.
only because you debugged before server side responses, and now, as I have
said, you have an alternative to speed up that process.
Finally, Formaldehyde JS had a typo so only today I realized it and I uploaded
the version 1.01 of Formalde
>
> While it's a joke, in all fairness, it does work.
only because you debugged before server side responses, and now, as I have
said, you have an alternative to speed up that process.
Finally, Formaldehyde JS had a typo so only today I realized it and I uploaded
the version 1.01 of Formalde
At 7:28 AM +0200 9/14/09, J DeBord wrote:
In all fairness Tedd, your example is a bit of a joke. Send some JSON back
and forth, do some database queries, and use a webservice all at the same
time. Your AJAX calls won't be so simple then.
Okay, so my work is a joke. Been there, done that before
Hello Andrea,
I did not mean to hurt you, my point was: beeing a Jerk when it's
ending in void conflicts with people, if you don't like their
comments, just don't answer to people.
For my concern, a program cannot be debuged by itself (especially
with a scripting language, we almost did a joke by
Noe that the debuger chapter is closed, and you actually did create a
error tracker helper and try to return them client side, I can
understand that you are frustrated by the poor php layer and support
regarding exception handling, but on this point as a lot of people
answer you we are doing that s
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:05 AM, tedd wrote:
> At 10:49 PM +0200 9/13/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
>
>> I was expecting somebody that develop massive Ajax application, not a link
>> with 3 pages and zero point about the reply.
>>
>
> You asked if anyone did any ajax? So, I replied and provided yo
At 10:49 PM +0200 9/13/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
I was expecting somebody that develop massive Ajax application, not
a link with 3 pages and zero point about the reply.
You asked if anyone did any ajax? So, I replied and provided you with
an example.
Who cares if my example only has three
> No, display_errors should be turned off (with log_errors turned on)
> and error_reporting should be set to whatever standard you're coding
> to (preferably, E_ALL | E_STRICT, but a lot of people like to ignore
> E_NOTICE's).
yep, it should be a production environment
> So it's not zero confi
> Right, errors should never be exposed, and error_reporting should be 0 in
> production but log function and the fact you can move Formaldehyde with the
> application means it does not require extra effort.
No, display_errors should be turned off (with log_errors turned on)
and error_reporting
Sorry, I meant environment
> ... plus you'll have 1:1 production/development application
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Right, errors should never be exposed, and error_reporting should be 0 in
production but log function and the fact you can move Formaldehyde with the
application means it does not require extra effort.
In few words, if in production Formaldehyde constant is false, and it must be
false, nothing
7;t do it next release)
>
> Best Regards
>
> P.S. for others ... these kind of answers, questions, opinions, that IS what
> I was expecting
>
>> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:52:11 -0400
>> From: oorza...@gmail.com
>> To: pa...@quillandmouse.com
>> CC: php-gen
that IS what I
was expecting
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:52:11 -0400
> From: oorza...@gmail.com
> To: pa...@quillandmouse.com
> CC: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
>
> What does this offer that a
> Hello Andrea,
>
> I am developing with PHP since now 12 years (did a couple stuff in
> Zend Core), and was one of a few guy using and sharing about php when
> it was only an THE Apache mode in the world C++ CGI, I am not Zend
> Certified, I won't :), anyway those things make me smarter or giv
... so it was not just to
> waste my time guys, and it is open source, maybe next time I'll keep for me
>
>> From: jasdeb...@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:37:01 +0200
>> To: php-general@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Aja
What does this offer that a real debugger, like xdebug, doesn't?
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On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 01:33:49PM +0200, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
>
> This ML is a bit different from what I was expecting,
>
> P.S. I am certified Zend Engineer with 10 years of experience with PHP and
> dunno how many innovation awards in phpclasses.org ... so it was not just to
> wa
p 2009 22:37:01 +0200
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Jim Lucas wrote:
>
> > Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
> >
> >> something I cannot find in any
That I created some fresh air or something new? Sure, thanks
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:47:27 -0700
> From: li...@cmsws.com
> To: an_...@hotmail.com
> CC: pa...@quillandmouse.com; php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Jim Lucas wrote:
> Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
>
>> something I cannot find in any other library or framework.
>>
>
> This should tell you something then...
>
> If something like Formandehyde isn't useful, then why is Charles so popular
(note: popular from my perspec
Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
something I cannot find in any other library or framework.
This should tell you something then...
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At 12:20 AM +0200 9/12/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:37:30 -0400
To: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
From: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP
Error Debugger
The only
things that may go wr
as margin note, the project page changed name, hopefully less ambiguous:
Formandehyde - Zero Config Ajax Based PHP Error Debugger
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> From: kranthi...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:39:43 +0530
> To: pa...@quillandmouse.com
> CC: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
>
> I dont think I understood you completely..
>
&
something I cannot find in any other library or framework.
Regards
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:20:58 -0400
> From: pa...@quillandmouse.com
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 200
> @Andera May be you should consider using application/json as the
> content type instead of text/plain.
> The Response text given by Formaldehyde cannot be understood manually
> (for example if I use jQuery.load()).
> Had the content type been application/json firebug parses it by default
my mis
I dont think I understood you completely..
Javascript debugger: Something you use to debug javascript. but
Formaldehyde dosent make any seance if xhr object is not used.
PHP Debugger: We cant use Formaldehyde to debug errors in every single
PHP script. I am talking about pages called directly via
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 12:23:44AM +0200, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
>
> Exactly Ben, except when PHP fails, even with a Fatal Error, the page has
> status 200, we need to understand which call failed between hundreds of
> potential calls in the debugger, and errors could pass silently.
>
> With
imple, and hopefully useful.
Regards
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:43:23 -0700
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
> From: bdun...@agentintellect.com
> To: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
> CC: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
>
&g
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:37:30 -0400
> To: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
> From: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error
> Debugger
> The only
> things that may go wrong are in the data I a
> Examine this:
>
> http://webbytedd.com/a/ajax-site/js/a.js
>
> Now, where can something go wrong?
I suppose slave.php could fail with a 4xx or 5xx response. Then, most
likely, the user would be left clicking on a link that does nothing.
In an edge case the body of the error-response might includ
At 4:54 PM +0200 9/11/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
How do you debug Ajax calls? I am starting to think you do not do
it, or your applications are extremely simple... do you transform
only at the end the result? How do you debug the transformation if
something go wrong? How do you test via clien
: muxical.g...@gmail.com
To: an_...@hotmail.com
CC: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk; tedd.sperl...@gmail.com;
php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
I do use FirePHP and your project looks interesting to evaluate. Will
check it out in
tions, 'cause here seems nobody i susing FirePHP or
frameworks debuggers while numbers tell me the scenario is totally different.
Regards
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
From: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
To: tedd.sperl...@gmail.c
tell me the scenario is totally different.
Regards
> Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error
> Debugger
> From: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
> To: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
> CC: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009
, ok, fine,
Formaldehyde is not for you, not today at least.
Thanks for the reply in any case, better than nothing.
Regards
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:35:43 -0400
> To: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
> From: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehy
On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 10:35 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 3:27 PM +0200 9/11/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
> >That's a finished production site ... how did you debug during its
> >development? 'Cause Formaldehyde is for development, not for
> >production ... I guess you have implented your own error
>
At 3:27 PM +0200 9/11/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
That's a finished production site ... how did you debug during its
development? 'Cause Formaldehyde is for development, not for
production ... I guess you have implented your own error
manager/debugger, right?
What's to debug?
The site --
h
400
> To: an_...@hotmail.com; php-general@lists.php.net
> From: tedd.sperl...@gmail.com
> Subject: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error Debugger
>
> At 11:35 PM +0200 9/10/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
> >Being something nobody thought before I was expect
At 11:35 PM +0200 9/10/09, Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
Being something nobody thought before I was expecting some comment
... zero Ajax developers here?
Andrea:
No, I develop in ajax. Here's one of my demos:
http://webbytedd.com/a/ajax-site/
Please note that the above site can be expanded/edite
Being something nobody thought before I was expecting some comment ... zero
Ajax developers here?
Anyway, to make things even more simple I have released the Zero Config client
side file, which works with most known browsers, IE included, and it does not
require a single change in existent code
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