Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-15 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, May 12, 2006 8:47 am, David Tulloh wrote: > My favorite story was > a > small free porn site that required you to enter a captcha to get in. > They were taking the captcha's they needed to break and getting horny > teenagers to do the recognition phase for them. According to the 'net, this

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-12 Thread tedd
I think you've changed the grounds of the argument. Me??? Would I do that? Not unless I was losing the argument. :-) The problem is fairly trivial in comparison to more important problems. That's basically what I meant. But implementing the solution is not trivial. When you first made the

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-12 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 15:11, tedd wrote: > At 1:01 PM -0400 5/12/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > The original poster asked the question -- can it be done. And of > >> course, the answer is Yes. > > >Just because they may wish they were detecting something simpler such as > >captcha (maybe, since

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-12 Thread tedd
At 1:01 PM -0400 5/12/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > The original poster asked the question -- can it be done. And of course, the answer is Yes. Yes "it can be done". No, it's not trivial in the general. Well... generally it's of little value to me. :-) Visial recognition is what we are ta

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-12 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 09:47, David Tulloh wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 13:48, tedd wrote: > > > >>At 12:11 PM -0400 5/11/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > >> > >>>On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 11:47, tedd wrote: > >>> > At 9:28 AM +0300 5/11/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >Hey

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-12 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 08:37, tedd wrote: > On Thu, May 11, 2006 1:03 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Edge detection, noise suppression, and data analysis don't quite > > equate > > to recognition. Also 30 years of OCR still requires that the sample be > > good quality and conform to fairly detec

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-12 Thread David Tulloh
Robert Cummings wrote: > On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 13:48, tedd wrote: > >>At 12:11 PM -0400 5/11/06, Robert Cummings wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 11:47, tedd wrote: >>> At 9:28 AM +0300 5/11/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: >Hey all, it is possible to parse capcha's in php? I'm not asking how >>

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-12 Thread tedd
On Thu, May 11, 2006 1:03 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: Edge detection, noise suppression, and data analysis don't quite equate to recognition. Also 30 years of OCR still requires that the sample be good quality and conform to fairly detectable patterns. If this is so trivial, I await the relea

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 18:11, Richard Lynch wrote: > On Thu, May 11, 2006 1:03 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Edge detection, noise suppression, and data analysis don't quite > > equate > > to recognition. Also 30 years of OCR still requires that the sample be > > good quality and conform to fairly

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, May 11, 2006 1:03 pm, Robert Cummings wrote: > Edge detection, noise suppression, and data analysis don't quite > equate > to recognition. Also 30 years of OCR still requires that the sample be > good quality and conform to fairly detectable patterns. If this is so > trivial, I await the re

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 13:48, tedd wrote: > At 12:11 PM -0400 5/11/06, Robert Cummings wrote: > >On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 11:47, tedd wrote: > >> At 9:28 AM +0300 5/11/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> >Hey all, it is possible to parse capcha's in php? I'm not asking how > >> >to do it, nor have I any nee

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread tedd
At 12:11 PM -0400 5/11/06, Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 11:47, tedd wrote: At 9:28 AM +0300 5/11/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: >Hey all, it is possible to parse capcha's in php? I'm not asking how >to do it, nor have I any need, it's just something that I was >discussing with a frie

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, May 11, 2006 1:28 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Hey all, it is possible to parse capcha's in php? I'm not asking how > to do it, nor have I any need, it's just something that I was > discussing with a friend. My stand was that ImageMagik could crack > them. She says no way. What are your opinion

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 11:47, tedd wrote: > At 9:28 AM +0300 5/11/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >Hey all, it is possible to parse capcha's in php? I'm not asking how > >to do it, nor have I any need, it's just something that I was > >discussing with a friend. My stand was that ImageMagik could crack > >t

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread tedd
At 9:28 AM +0300 5/11/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: Hey all, it is possible to parse capcha's in php? I'm not asking how to do it, nor have I any need, it's just something that I was discussing with a friend. My stand was that ImageMagik could crack them. She says no way. What are your opinions? Thanks

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread Jochem Maas
Dotan Cohen wrote: On 5/11/06, Peter Hoskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are often easier solutions due to poor design. Seen many sites setting the value in cookies, or hidden form elements, etc. Sites made by people who can't do their jobs in other words :) Regards, Peter Hoskin I k

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 5/11/06, Peter Hoskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are often easier solutions due to poor design. Seen many sites setting the value in cookies, or hidden form elements, etc. Sites made by people who can't do their jobs in other words :) Regards, Peter Hoskin I know what you mean. But

Re: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-11 Thread Peter Hoskin
library, and fourier > transforms, I bet that you could parse Capchas. > > Dan > > -Original Message- > From: Dotan Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:29 AM > To: PHP General (E-mail) > Subject: [PHP] Parsing images > > Hey

RE: [PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-10 Thread Dan Harrington
Using ImageMagick, ray tracing algorithms, an OCR library, and fourier transforms, I bet that you could parse Capchas. Dan -Original Message- From: Dotan Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:29 AM To: PHP General (E-mail) Subject: [PHP] Parsing images Hey all

[PHP] Parsing images

2006-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
Hey all, it is possible to parse capcha's in php? I'm not asking how to do it, nor have I any need, it's just something that I was discussing with a friend. My stand was that ImageMagik could crack them. She says no way. What are your opinions? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com