On 8/20/2013 10:00 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> Hi guys:
>
> A teacher at my college made the statement that JAVA for Web Development is
> more popular than PHP.
>
> Where can I go to prove this right or wrong -- and/or -- what references do
> any of you have to support your answer? (sounds like a
Zmap works by being stateless, so while nmap records which requests go out,
zmap "fires and forgets", and encodes the request in such a way that the
response can provide whatever details it needs to continue the scan. No
magic here.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
> Tedd Sp
Tedd Sperling wrote:
I'm just trying to get documentation to back up my what I think I know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_languages_used_in_most_popular_websites
may be a better starting point, but there are no citations to the facts, they
are a little dated, and some sites are a
On 20 Aug 2013, at 22:00, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 21:44 +0100, Stuart Dallas wrote:
>> On 20 Aug 2013, at 21:30, Dan Munro > > wrote:
>>
>> >> in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?".
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 21:44 +0100, Stuart Dallas wrote:
> On 20 Aug 2013, at 21:30, Dan Munro wrote:
>
> >> in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?".
> >
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/18/heres-what-you-find-when-you-scan-the-entire-inte
On 20 Aug 2013, at 21:30, Dan Munro wrote:
>> in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?".
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/18/heres-what-you-find-when-you-scan-the-entire-internet-in-an-hour/
That's scanning IP addresses and doesn't come clo
On 20 Aug 2013, at 21:08, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
> 2013/8/20 Steven Staples
>
>>> My recent question was simply an attempt to get documentation to support
>>> which server-side Web Language is the most popular. Both PHP and Java can
>>> be used server-side.
>>>
>>> I also realize that Java is
> in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/18/heres-what-you-find-when-you-scan-the-entire-internet-in-an-hour/
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
> 2013/8/20 Steven Staples
>
> > > My re
2013/8/20 Steven Staples
> > My recent question was simply an attempt to get documentation to support
> > which server-side Web Language is the most popular. Both PHP and Java can
> > be used server-side.
> >
> > I also realize that Java is used for native Android because I also teach
> > Mobile
> My recent question was simply an attempt to get documentation to support
> which server-side Web Language is the most popular. Both PHP and Java can
> be used server-side.
>
> I also realize that Java is used for native Android because I also teach
> Mobile Application Development (MAD -- I even
2013/8/20 Andy McKenzie
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Dan Munro wrote:
>
> > > 1. There are no statement terminators. Lose your indentation for ANY
> > > reason and your program is well and truly screwed, in ways you can't
> > > imagine.
> > >
> > > 2. Python programs fail in the most ungra
On Aug 20, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
> Thats interesting. I am from Berlin and here, when you say you know PHP and a
> little bit of one, or two frameworks, they will jump onto you
I'll stay away from Berlin. :-)
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On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Dan Munro wrote:
> > 1. There are no statement terminators. Lose your indentation for ANY
> > reason and your program is well and truly screwed, in ways you can't
> > imagine.
> >
> > 2. Python programs fail in the most ungraceful way I've ever seen in an
> > inte
On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Pete Ford wrote:
> tedd,
>
> Java is a meticulously-constructed language with very strict typing and a
> large commercial organisation which purports to support and develop it.
> PHP is a scruffy heap of loosely typed cruft which is easy to knock together
> and bui
> 1. There are no statement terminators. Lose your indentation for ANY
> reason and your program is well and truly screwed, in ways you can't
> imagine.
>
> 2. Python programs fail in the most ungraceful way I've ever seen in an
> interpreted programming language.
1. Indent properly. In php, if yo
On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 05:09:37PM +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
>
>> shiplu wrote:
>>> During PHPvsPython search I found this info graphic
>>> https://www.udemy.com/blog/modern-language-wars/#. Some of the
>>> statistics contain Java too. Also y
2013/8/20 Andy McKenzie
> I'll chime in on this one.
>
> I've been job hunting recently, and I can say that while I've seen a lot of
> people asking for Java experience, I'm not sure I've seen a single posting
> asking specifically for PHP. There've been a few looking for Drupal, or
> Wordpress,
2013/8/20 Lester Caine
> Sebastian Krebs wrote:
>
>> 1. He's not my teacher -- he is a fellow teacher AND a smart one! He knows
>>> >the difference between Java and JavaScript.
>>> >
>>>
>> OKOK, sorry -_-
>> But @topic: For example see
>> http://w3techs.com/**technologies/overview/**programming_
I'll chime in on this one.
I've been job hunting recently, and I can say that while I've seen a lot of
people asking for Java experience, I'm not sure I've seen a single posting
asking specifically for PHP. There've been a few looking for Drupal, or
Wordpress, but no "You must be able to write PH
On 8/20/13 9:00 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
Hi guys:
A teacher at my college made the statement that JAVA for Web Development is
more popular than PHP.
Where can I go to prove this right or wrong -- and/or -- what references do any
of you have to support your answer? (sounds like a teacher, huh?
On 20/08/13 15:00, Tedd Sperling wrote:
Hi guys:
A teacher at my college made the statement that JAVA for Web Development is
more popular than PHP.
Where can I go to prove this right or wrong -- and/or -- what references do any
of you have to support your answer? (sounds like a teacher, huh?)
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 05:09:37PM +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
> shiplu wrote:
> >During PHPvsPython search I found this info graphic
> >https://www.udemy.com/blog/modern-language-wars/#. Some of the
> >statistics contain Java too. Also you can search "PHP" and "Web
> >Development" in big job sites
shiplu wrote:
During PHPvsPython search I found this info graphic
https://www.udemy.com/blog/modern-language-wars/#. Some of the
statistics contain Java too. Also you can search "PHP" and "Web
Development" in big job sites and compare with same search but with
"Java".
'Python is arguably the mo
What a co-incidence! I was searching PHP vs Python in google and
reading articles. Now a similar mail on my inbox. When any language
war goes on, everyone gets biased by the language he/she loves. It
applies here too. I think your college teacher loves Java.
During PHPvsPython search I found this
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> Hi guys:
>
> A teacher at my college made the statement that JAVA for Web Development is
> more popular than PHP.
>
> Where can I go to prove this right or wrong -- and/or -- what references do
> any of you have to support your answer? (so
Sebastian Krebs wrote:
1. He's not my teacher -- he is a fellow teacher AND a smart one! He knows
>the difference between Java and JavaScript.
>
OKOK, sorry -_-
But @topic: For example see
http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all
Really: Java is a good and mature languag
2013/8/20 Tedd Sperling
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
> > Just tell your teacher: Java isn't more popular than PHP as
> _web_-language ;)
> > I think too, that he actually meant javascript, which is indeed a very
> popular client-side language. But javascript and PHP has
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:56 AM, David OBrien wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
>
>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:36 AM, "Liam" wrote:
>> > You do realise you are on a PHP based user subscription, so the vast
>> > majority will go with PHP, so you will get a one s
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:36 AM, "Liam" wrote:
> > You do realise you are on a PHP based user subscription, so the vast
> > majority will go with PHP, so you will get a one sided argument.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Liam
>
>
> I realize that many,
Here are two references from the Wikipedia article on Java in case you
haven't looked at them already.
http://www.langpop.com/
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
On 20 August 2013 10:43, Tedd Sperling wrote:
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:36 AM, "Liam" wrote:
>> You do r
On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:36 AM, "Liam" wrote:
> You do realise you are on a PHP based user subscription, so the vast
> majority will go with PHP, so you will get a one sided argument.
>
> Regards,
> Liam
I realize that many, maybe the majority, will be bias. HOWEVER -- there are
professionals on
On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
> Just tell your teacher: Java isn't more popular than PHP as _web_-language ;)
> I think too, that he actually meant javascript, which is indeed a very
> popular client-side language. But javascript and PHP has different use-cases,
> thus say
I think the big takeaway there is that JAVA is one of the primary language
for larger companies and applications. Start ups tend to use smaller easier
to use tools like php / javascript / python / ruby.
I saw one figure recently that put php at 75% of websites out there (i
think that came out when
> The article very clearly says..
>
> No language can be considered as good just because there are more jobs for
> the same.
>
Yes, but I am not making a value (good/bad) judgment -- Instead I am asking for
references supporting which language (Java or PHP) as being the most popular
for Web D
2013/8/20 Tedd Sperling
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Ashley Sheridan
> wrote:
> > Is he possibly getting confused with Javascript?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ash
>
> No, this guy is smarter than that -- he's pretty sharp -- so I listen to
> what he has to say.
>
> Here's an interesting link:
>
> htt
On 13-08-20 10:19 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
Is he possibly getting confused with Javascript?
Thanks,
Ash
No, this guy is smarter than that -- he's pretty sharp -- so I listen to what
he has to say.
Here's an interesting link:
http://www.s
On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> Is he possibly getting confused with Javascript?
>
> Thanks,
> Ash
No, this guy is smarter than that -- he's pretty sharp -- so I listen to what
he has to say.
Here's an interesting link:
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-programming-language
On 13-08-20 10:00 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote:
Hi guys:
A teacher at my college made the statement that JAVA for Web Development is
more popular than PHP.
Where can I go to prove this right or wrong -- and/or -- what references do any
of you have to support your answer? (sounds like a teacher, hu
Tedd Sperling wrote:
>Hi guys:
>
>A teacher at my college made the statement that JAVA for Web
>Development is more popular than PHP.
>
>Where can I go to prove this right or wrong -- and/or -- what
>references do any of you have to support your answer? (sounds like a
>teacher, huh?)
>
>Here are
Hi guys:
A teacher at my college made the statement that JAVA for Web Development is
more popular than PHP.
Where can I go to prove this right or wrong -- and/or -- what references do any
of you have to support your answer? (sounds like a teacher, huh?)
Here are my two references:
http://w3te
GH wrote:
> Can you please explain Threads to me?
Well, you start with some sheep... :-)
Real Answer:
[with gross simplifiations and outright "lies" to keep things easy]
Imagine that you have a program that wants to SEEM to be doing multiple
things at once.
For example, it wants to have a bac
Perhaps in specific areas related to the web. But Java is so much more
extensive than PHP, I doubt PHP will ever eclipse it.
On Jan 1, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Lewis LaCook wrote:
...just looking for opinions: will PHP eclipse (IS PHP
eclipsing) Java?
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:48:01 -0500, GH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you please explain Threads to me?
Multiple isolated tasks executing at the same time.
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 14:38:50 -0600, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 10:07:20 -0800 (PST), Lewis LaCook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > ...just looking for opinions: will PHP eclipse (IS PHP
> > eclipsing) Java?
>
> I'd like to se
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 10:07:20 -0800 (PST), Lewis LaCook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...just looking for opinions: will PHP eclipse (IS PHP
> eclipsing) Java?
I'd like to see threads added to PHP. Java has them, and Perl does as
well. And I'm sure there are others that I don't know about.
--
Gr
...just looking for opinions: will PHP eclipse (IS PHP
eclipsing) Java?
bliss
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Xan
Ed Lazor wrote:
Any comments or opinions on pros and cons, especially in terms of stability,
security, and future upgradability?
This is a a religious war topic. Horses for course but in this list of
PHP fanatics you should expect only one answer - PHP is better for web
applications - no conte
Any comments or opinions on pros and cons, especially in terms of stability,
security, and future upgradability?
I know this is probably one of those religious war topics, but I'd still
like your feedback.
-Ed
> I agree with the other reply to your question.
> (Keep in mind that it will be easier to sell Java to
> the corporate guys. Some executives shy away from open
> source.)
Php vs. Java?
Why not work together.
copy from manual:
"
There are two possible ways to bridge PHP and Java: you can either
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ!
IMHO java is to be avoided. fullstop. Still, it might be unavoidable
from a commercial point of view. In that case, you should avoid being
involved in the project and let the marketing dept have their fun on
their own.
There's a lot of pleasantly paid jobs that won't kill your nerves
I agree with the other reply to your question.
My thoughts could be summarized as follows:
- Java solution would be more expensive and involved
to build and maintain.
- PHP would be cheaper and quicker to build and
maintain.
- Java would require more resources on your server.
- PHP is light weig
[snip]
I'm being asked you evaluate a fairly complex web project using the MS SQL
Server 2000 back-end. A large application will be built, involving lots of
technical and financial information from multiple sources and types of
sources
input daily, weekly, monthly, etc. Reports will also be run
I'm being asked you evaluate a fairly complex web project using the MS SQL
Server 2000 back-end. A large application will be built, involving lots of
technical and financial information from multiple sources and types of sources
input daily, weekly, monthly, etc. Reports will also be run daily,
Hi folks
Just putting together a brochure for a product authored in PHP, and making
the case for LAMP (Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP) as a platform, in a market where
most competitors are Java based.
I recently spoke to a very experienced sysadmin at an ISP who said they
always recommend LAMP over Java
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