Re: [PHP] Of Jobs and Certs

2002-07-17 Thread Michael Hall
In my opinion, certification doesn't count for much. The Microsoft certs are proof enough of this, but even many of the Linux certs are pretty shallow when you look at what they cover and how they're tested. Most employers know that you can either do it or you can't. Anecdote: I once asked a net

Re: [PHP] Of Jobs and Certs

2002-07-17 Thread Peter J. Schoenster
On 17 Jul 2002 at 12:55, Miguel Cruz wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Martin Clifford wrote: > > I'd like to get everyone's input on Jobs and Certs. I know there > > are a couple Certifications for web developers out there, such as > > the CIW and CWP certifications. > > I don't know if this is w

Re: [PHP] Of Jobs and Certs [long]

2002-07-17 Thread Chris Hewitt
Jay Blanchard wrote: > >+1 Miguel > +2 Chris I found when hiring people in the electronics industry that those who were genuinely interested in the subject (as a hobby) and then did a course were much better for the company than those that just had lots of pieces of paper. I find that it is

RE: [PHP] Of Jobs and Certs [long]

2002-07-17 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I don't know if this is what you want to hear, but I can tell you that as a rule, I don't hire people who advertise certifications on their resume. I've found that they correlate pretty strongly with incompetence, to the point where nothing saves me more time when filtering through resumes

Re: [PHP] Of Jobs and Certs

2002-07-17 Thread Danny Shepherd
I agree - nothing beats a good portfolio. Danny. - Original Message - From: "Miguel Cruz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Clifford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Of Jobs and

Re: [PHP] Of Jobs and Certs

2002-07-17 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Martin Clifford wrote: > I'd like to get everyone's input on Jobs and Certs. I know there are a > couple Certifications for web developers out there, such as the CIW and > CWP certifications. I don't know if this is what you want to hear, but I can tell you that as a rule,

[PHP] Of Jobs and Certs

2002-07-17 Thread Martin Clifford
Howdy everyone, I'd like to get everyone's input on Jobs and Certs. I know there are a couple Certifications for web developers out there, such as the CIW and CWP certifications. Here are my questions: 1. What is the best method to go about becoming certified? 2. What is the best way to go