I also agree OOP is not a fad. Its a step up from procedural/including.
And it's still evolving.
While PHP is able to do polymorphism perfectly without OOP/classes,
through "require($plugin/className); $varFunctionName ($p1, $p2,
etc);", My newsscraper works very well that way.
But if you want inh
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 06:49 -0800, Andrew Brookins wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Ben Stones wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> > and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> > PHP scripts
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Ben Stones wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in the
> actual PH
At 11:18 AM -0500 1/20/10, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:11:18AM -0500, tedd wrote:
While I teach OOP, I don't write any OOP for clients. My charge is to
do things quickly and OOP requires a considerable amount of analysis
before creating a solution. In most cases, I don
At 11:31 AM -0500 1/20/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
From: tedd
At 10:26 AM -0500 1/19/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
Some problems will fit into it, some don't.
I teach OOP thinking at the local college and haven't run into a
problem that doesn't fit. For example, in my last class I had a woman
w
Hi Bob,
[Couldn't resist jumping into this topic :)]
Even if you look at traditional unix (or similar) kernel internals,
although they tend to use functional paradigms, they do have a
OOP-like flavor. Example:
Everything in a unix system is a 'file' (well not really with
networking logic, but it
From: tedd
> At 10:26 AM -0500 1/19/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
>> Some problems will fit into it, some don't.
>
> I teach OOP thinking at the local college and haven't run into a
> problem that doesn't fit. For example, in my last class I had a woman
> who wanted to pick out a blue dress for her
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:11:18AM -0500, tedd wrote:
>
> While I teach OOP, I don't write any OOP for clients. My charge is to
> do things quickly and OOP requires a considerable amount of analysis
> before creating a solution. In most cases, I don't have the time.
> Besides, I'm more of an agi
tedd wrote on 20/01/2010 16:11:
At 10:26 AM -0500 1/19/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
Some problems will fit into it, some don't.
I teach OOP thinking at the local college and haven't run into a problem
that doesn't fit. For example, in my last class I had a woman who wanted
to pick out a blue dre
2010/1/20 tedd :
> Also IMO, one can argue the advantages that OOP and Design Patterns bring to
> the table over procedural, but after all is said and done, if you know your
> stuff in procedural, OOP is not going to provide you with much that you
> don't already have.
You also have to consider th
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
My viewpoint may be jaundiced from having programmed in C++, but the
polymorphism of PHP seems a little crippled by comparison.
[/snip]
I wholeheartedly agree, but I figured out how to work with it in PHP to
my advantage and the advantage of my team. It'll get better.
[snip]
My viewpoint may be jaundiced from having programmed in C++, but the
polymorphism of PHP seems a little crippled by comparison.
[/snip]
I wholeheartedly agree, but I figured out how to work with it in PHP to
my advantage and the advantage of my team. It'll get better...
--
PHP General Mai
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:47:04AM -0600, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> > Another advantage of OOP that is difficult to
> > provide via the procedural paradigm is polymorphism.
>
> Agreed. Though the advantages of polymorphism are questionable,
> depending on your viewpoint.
> [/snip]
>
> In a
At 10:26 AM -0500 1/19/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
Some problems will fit into it, some don't.
I teach OOP thinking at the local college and haven't run into a
problem that doesn't fit. For example, in my last class I had a woman
who wanted to pick out a blue dress for her upcoming wedding
anni
[snip]
> Another advantage of OOP that is difficult to
> provide via the procedural paradigm is polymorphism.
Agreed. Though the advantages of polymorphism are questionable,
depending on your viewpoint.
[/snip]
In a loosely typed language like PHP that advantages of polymorphism far
outweigh any
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 01:12:49PM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> I would have to agree that OOP is not a fad, perhaps over-hyped at
> times, but definitely not a fad. The argument about class dependencies
> is an invalid argument since functions will also have dependencies on
> other functio
Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 12:30 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:11:56PM +, Ben Stones wrote:
Hi,
I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 05:44:56PM +, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
>
> Oh, and your flame suit failed because you forgot the quotation marks around
> the attribute values, and you didn't close the tag :p
Dang! I *thought* it felt awfully warm in here.
Paul
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On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 12:30 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:11:56PM +, Ben Stones wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> > and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> > PH
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:11:56PM +, Ben Stones wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in the
>
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 15:11 +, Ben Stones wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in the
> actual
Ben,
I use a combination of procedural and OOP in my scripts. It depends on
my needs. As an example, I use OOP for gathering order information. I created
a class which gathers all the order information allowing me to easily access
any piece of data in the order. I could do this with
From: Ben Stones
> I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few
weeks
> and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually
with
> PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in
the
> actual PHP file, and I'd use PHP functions in a sep
Hi,
I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in the
actual PHP file, and I'd use PHP functions in a separate directory which
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