RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread electroteque
] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda' [snip] Yes i think java would be the best to learn proper OO, i've nevr done it, but coming the other way knowing php OO, java became more familiar to me, i'm gonna do it this year. [/snip] Why not start with the king of OOP, C++? Currently C++ is the mos

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Justin Patrin
Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Experience has chown that smaller simpler languages are easier to learn and apply than larger ones. [/snip] Obviously. :) I'd be curious as to how many cam to PHP from a programming background? Likewise, how many start with PHP and go on to other languages? And what t

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Kelly Hallman
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Jay Blanchard wrote: > I'd be curious as to how many cam to PHP from a programming background? > Likewise, how many start with PHP and go on to other languages? And what > those languages are either direction? I started serious coding in perl. When I found PHP, I realized I wa

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Chris Garaffa
On Jan 30, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: I'd be curious as to how many cam to PHP from a programming background? Likewise, how many start with PHP and go on to other languages? And what those languages are either direction? Probably a strange mix, but... I came to PHP from an AppleScript/

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Experience has chown that smaller simpler languages are easier to learn and apply than larger ones. [/snip] Obviously. :) I'd be curious as to how many cam to PHP from a programming background? Likewise, how many start with PHP and go on to other languages? And what those languages are ei

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Kelly Hallman wrote: > Other languages dispense with a lot of the formalities found in C++ (a > good or bad thing, depending on your perspective). I found Python to be a > great language to learn OOP, since it forces good habits on you. C++ is a very large unwieldly language

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Kelly Hallman
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Jay Blanchard wrote: > > I would have to disagree. While it may be possible to implement good > > OOP in C++, it does not nearly implement OOP as well as many other > > languages. It also has many other design problems that hinder the > > learning of OOP. > > I respect your op

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Chris Boget
> Which of the "many other languages" implement OOP better? Smalltalk, for one. Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Hehe, and here is where we start a holy war. [/snip] Bring it. [snip] I would have to disagree. While it may be possible to implement good OOP in C++, it does not nearly implement OOP as well as many other languages. It also has many other design problems that hinder the learning of OOP. [

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Justin Patrin
Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Yes i think java would be the best to learn proper OO, i've nevr done it, but coming the other way knowing php OO, java became more familiar to me, i'm gonna do it this year. [/snip] Why not start with the king of OOP, C++? Currently C++ is the most robust implementor o

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Yes i think java would be the best to learn proper OO, i've nevr done it, but coming the other way knowing php OO, java became more familiar to me, i'm gonna do it this year. [/snip] Why not start with the king of OOP, C++? Currently C++ is the most robust implementor of OOP design issues.