RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread electroteque
Ok sorry, c++ then, yes thats another kettle of fish, i'm going to be doing some c++ to learn how to make vst plugins :D -Original Message- From: Jay Blanchard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:51 PM To: electroteque; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology

2004-01-30 Thread Adam Bregenzer
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 04:41, Chris Neale wrote: > The main application would then do this: > > $q = new dbObj; > $x = new iterator; > $y = new HTMLGenerator($q, $x) > > while ($x->next()) > { > $y->MakeHTML(); > $y->outputToFile(); > } > > Anyone got any thoughts about whether this i

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Justin Patrin
Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Experience has chown that smaller simpler languages are easier to learn and apply than larger ones. [/snip] Obviously. :) I'd be curious as to how many cam to PHP from a programming background? Likewise, how many start with PHP and go on to other languages? And what t

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Kelly Hallman
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Jay Blanchard wrote: > I'd be curious as to how many cam to PHP from a programming background? > Likewise, how many start with PHP and go on to other languages? And what > those languages are either direction? I started serious coding in perl. When I found PHP, I realized I wa

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Chris Garaffa
On Jan 30, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: I'd be curious as to how many cam to PHP from a programming background? Likewise, how many start with PHP and go on to other languages? And what those languages are either direction? Probably a strange mix, but... I came to PHP from an AppleScript/

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Experience has chown that smaller simpler languages are easier to learn and apply than larger ones. [/snip] Obviously. :) I'd be curious as to how many cam to PHP from a programming background? Likewise, how many start with PHP and go on to other languages? And what those languages are ei

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Kelly Hallman wrote: > Other languages dispense with a lot of the formalities found in C++ (a > good or bad thing, depending on your perspective). I found Python to be a > great language to learn OOP, since it forces good habits on you. C++ is a very large unwieldly language

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Kelly Hallman
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Jay Blanchard wrote: > > I would have to disagree. While it may be possible to implement good > > OOP in C++, it does not nearly implement OOP as well as many other > > languages. It also has many other design problems that hinder the > > learning of OOP. > > I respect your op

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Chris Boget
> Which of the "many other languages" implement OOP better? Smalltalk, for one. Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Hehe, and here is where we start a holy war. [/snip] Bring it. [snip] I would have to disagree. While it may be possible to implement good OOP in C++, it does not nearly implement OOP as well as many other languages. It also has many other design problems that hinder the learning of OOP. [

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Justin Patrin
Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Yes i think java would be the best to learn proper OO, i've nevr done it, but coming the other way knowing php OO, java became more familiar to me, i'm gonna do it this year. [/snip] Why not start with the king of OOP, C++? Currently C++ is the most robust implementor o

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology{O|T} kinda'

2004-01-30 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Yes i think java would be the best to learn proper OO, i've nevr done it, but coming the other way knowing php OO, java became more familiar to me, i'm gonna do it this year. [/snip] Why not start with the king of OOP, C++? Currently C++ is the most robust implementor of OOP design issues.

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology

2004-01-30 Thread electroteque
it really good to add it in, does it work in php4 ? -Original Message- From: Raditha Dissanayake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] OOP methodology Hi Chris, Sounds to me like you are pretty much on

RE: [PHP] OOP methodology

2004-01-30 Thread electroteque
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] OOP methodology This is a long one - I'm trying to get to grips with my understanding of OOP. I'm not sure that I understand object oriented programming as well as I could to benefit from using it in PHP. Although I've used it to produce working a

Re: [PHP] OOP methodology

2004-01-30 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Hi Chris, Sounds to me like you are pretty much on the right track bearing in mind that PHP is not the bes language to learn OOP. Even your taskmanager sounds good, i wouldn't bother with reading up on design patterns just yet. They are indeed very important and you should definitely study the

[PHP] OOP methodology

2004-01-30 Thread Chris Neale
This is a long one - I'm trying to get to grips with my understanding of OOP. I'm not sure that I understand object oriented programming as well as I could to benefit from using it in PHP. Although I've used it to produce working applications, of the few objects I've produced nearly all have c