Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Mirek Novak
CPT John W. Holmes wrote: This is no good unless you're saving the value server side somewhere. With this method, I can still post to your page from anywhere, so long as I set the two variables the same. Who cares if the data came from your page, just validate it! No matter what you do, it can be

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread John W. Holmes
---John W. Holmes... PHP Architect - A monthly magazine for PHP Professionals. Get your copy today. http://www.phparch.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Dennis Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:54 PM > To: CPT John W. Holmes > Subject: RE: [PHP]

Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread CPT John W. Holmes
> If you are really that strict about it coming from you site, have your form > page create an image with five letter of number on it - like 4Y6O7. Have it > create a new one each time. Then use crypt to encrypt it and put the > encrypted one into a form value, have the person that is submitting th

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Dennis Cole
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Hacker problem Importance: Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Swear filtering is easy, I want to know how to make sure the data is > coming from MY formI'm just pick

Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Mirek Novak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Swear filtering is easy, I want to know how to make sure the data is coming from MY formI'm just picky like that. :-) Hi, I've done it via a "ticket" system - into my form I've added field - store the ticket number in database (optionally) with TimeToLive - when POS

Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread CPT John W. Holmes
PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] Hacker problem > So we aren't actually validating "where" the data is coming from, we > are just validating the data? > > -Original Message- > From: Lei

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Sysadmin
Thanks! That's all I needed to know. -Original Message- From: Leif K-Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Hacker problem That's just not possible. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot

Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Leif K-Brooks
EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Hacker problem if(stristr($text,'badword') or stristr($text,'badword2') or strlen($text) > maxlength){ die('Invalid!'); } [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how could you validate it server-side? -Original Message- From: Leif K-B

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Adam Voigt
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Hacker problem Why don't you just do the swear filtering on shoutb.php, or wherever it's actually bei

Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Leif K-Brooks
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Hacker problem Why don't you just do the swear filtering on shoutb.php, or wherever it's actually being inserted into the database? On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 08:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would one go about doing t

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Sysadmin
So we aren't actually validating "where" the data is coming from, we are just validating the data? -Original Message- From: Leif K-Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Hack

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Sysadmin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Hacker problem This could still be faked easily with a telnet session and some fake http headers. Your only way of making sure is to create a serversid

Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Leif K-Brooks
nesday, March 12, 2003 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Hacker problem That's can still easily be spoofed. The only safe way is to validate the form server-side. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, theoretically...you could require it to be posted data. In or

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Adam Voigt
n Hardiker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Hacker problem This could still be faked easily with a telnet session and

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Sysadmin
How would one go about doing this? -Original Message- From: Dan Hardiker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Hacker problem This could still be faked easily with a telnet

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Dan Hardiker
en you > could use the referrer along with this and it will only allow data from > that specific form. Hope this helps! > > Brian Drexler > > -Original Message- > From: Pag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Leif K-Brooks
that specific form. Hope this helps! Brian Drexler -Original Message- From: Pag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Hacker problem Been having some hacker problems on my site, and a simple one: I have a shoutbox, a simpl

RE: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Sysadmin
esday, March 12, 2003 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Hacker problem Been having some hacker problems on my site, and a simple one: I have a shoutbox, a simple form with name and text that adds lines to the database. I do checks for insults, too long words, tags, etc

Re: [PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Leif K-Brooks
You're checking with javascript, correct? If so, try checking server-side too. Pag wrote: Been having some hacker problems on my site, and a simple one: I have a shoutbox, a simple form with name and text that adds lines to the database. I do checks for insults, too long words, tags,

[PHP] Hacker problem

2003-03-12 Thread Pag
Been having some hacker problems on my site, and a simple one: I have a shoutbox, a simple form with name and text that adds lines to the database. I do checks for insults, too long words, tags, etc, but its still possible to circumvent those checks by adding the data on the url instead of us