Re: [PHP] Debugging classes

2008-01-22 Thread Jochem Maas
Vishal Patel schreef: i dont know why the hell im on it so please whoever did this, i wish they would stop fucking about with my account. please can you unsuscribe me to all such mailing lists as at the moment im recieving about 10 new emails a minute about all this stuff which im sure you can

Re: [PHP] Debugging classes

2008-01-22 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Jan 22, 2008 6:15 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TG schreef: > > I have a semi-good understanding of classes even if I don't totally > 'grok' > > the benefits for the projects I've worked on so far. > > > > One thing that keeps smacking me in the face, though, is reverse > enginee

Re: [PHP] Debugging classes

2008-01-22 Thread Jochem Maas
Vishal Patel schreef: who the fuck are you and why the fuck are you emailing me I'm fucking me actually. and I'm fucking mailing a fucking mailing list which apparently your fucking subscribed to. So now your fucking up to speed. Any other fucking questions? On Jan 22, 2008 11:15 PM, Jochem

Re: [PHP] Debugging classes

2008-01-22 Thread Jochem Maas
TG schreef: I have a semi-good understanding of classes even if I don't totally 'grok' the benefits for the projects I've worked on so far. One thing that keeps smacking me in the face, though, is reverse engineering in order to make proper changes to projects created by others using classes.

Re: [PHP] Debugging classes

2008-01-22 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Jan 22, 2008 2:40 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At least, that would be one of the first features I'd put into an IDE, > if I used OOP in PHP and if I used IDEs in the first place... actually php-eclipse and pdt both have pretty solid oop support for php. and theyre free. the

Re: [PHP] Debugging classes

2008-01-22 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, January 22, 2008 12:06 pm, TG wrote: > One thing that keeps smacking me in the face, though, is reverse > engineering > in order to make proper changes to projects created by others using > classes. OOP requires a great deal more high-level documentation, to tell what classes do what and h

Re: [PHP] Debugging classes

2008-01-22 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Jan 22, 2008 1:06 PM, TG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a semi-good understanding of classes even if I don't totally 'grok' > the benefits for the projects I've worked on so far. > > One thing that keeps smacking me in the face, though, is reverse > engineering > in order to make proper

[PHP] Debugging classes

2008-01-22 Thread TG
I have a semi-good understanding of classes even if I don't totally 'grok' the benefits for the projects I've worked on so far. One thing that keeps smacking me in the face, though, is reverse engineering in order to make proper changes to projects created by others using classes. In particula