Here is what I would do (this advice and a buck will buy you a cup of
coffee):
First, I'd take my existing code, look over it and ask, Where am I
doing the same thing over and over? Code that is repetitive is a prime
candidate for using functions or objects. Objects are easier to
maintain for
se in to help you wont have to spend much time babysitting
them.
From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] Cleaning up my messy code
Date: 29 Sep 2003 21:49:45 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Vail) wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> My own experience
olinux wrote:
> Try out smarty (its quite simple). You will get some
> ideas on how to structure. I learned that its *ok* to
> have some *display logic* in your templates (i.e.
> repeating rows). (yes, some will adamantly disagree)
>
> Another thing i learned when using smarty is I like
> using arr
Try out smarty (its quite simple). You will get some
ideas on how to structure. I learned that its *ok* to
have some *display logic* in your templates (i.e.
repeating rows). (yes, some will adamantly disagree)
Another thing i learned when using smarty is I like
using arrays to keep things organize
On 29 Sep 2003 21:08:40 -0400
Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I like that idea too-- I just don't like having to learn what amounts to a
> > third language to do it. Does one have to have a templating engine in order
> > to achieve this?
> >
> > I find reusability to be, largely
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 17:07, Curt Zirzow wrote:
> I wonder if now is a place to introduce my new templating system.
Definitely! I'd be interested in seeing it.
> I have the same difficulties in letting just joe blow executing php
> code within templates, sometimes smarty is just to smart for
>
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 20:27, Chris L wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Cummings) wrote in
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
>
> > *heh* I like being able to look at project 2 and say to myself, hmm
> > needs an authentication just like project 1, but with a different
> > look. Or wants a news feed,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Cummings) wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> *heh* I like being able to look at project 2 and say to myself, hmm
> needs an authentication just like project 1, but with a different
> look. Or wants a news feed, like project 1, buyt the data source is
> different, I'll
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:10, Chris L wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Cummings) wrote in
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> > Regardless of the framework or library or whatever you choose, you
> > WILL have to adapt to it to some degree. Whether that be style-wise or
> > just learning the the API. T
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Cummings) wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Regardless of the framework or library or whatever you choose, you
> WILL have to adapt to it to some degree. Whether that be style-wise or
> just learning the the API. The more power, and flexibility you want,
> the more you
* Thus wrote CPT John W. Holmes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> From: "Brent Baisley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I looked into the templating systems at first, but really wanted to try
> > what they were doing myself. It ends up being very easy to implement
> > using output buffering. Just look into the ob_
Vail
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From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:50 PM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Vail) wrote in
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> My own experience has shown that separation of
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 17:49, Chris wrote:
>
> Certainly. This is not a theoretical exercise but frustration with
> dealing with my own code, trying to implement revisions, and basically
> feeling like I need a map of some kind to know where I am.
>
> That's why I'm interested in what other peop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Vail) wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> My own experience has shown that separation of a presentation layer
> from an application layer, doesn't occur where we think it should.
> HTML as a language has no capability to be dynamic, and if we are
> going to ask that the
No argument from me.
Warren
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:21 PM
To: Vail, Warren
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Subject: RE: [PHP] Cleaning up my messy code
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 17:12, Vail, Warren wrote:
>
> IMH
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 17:12, Vail, Warren wrote:
>
> IMHO, the first test of any code, is does it do what is should accurately,
> and speedily (in that order), after that what you have left is a
> programmer's best effort at producing something that others can read.
> Adding cpu cycles so that it
r. (groan).
Warren Vail
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:38 PM
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On 29 Sep 2003 19:22:54 -
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am working on a fai
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 15:22, Chris wrote:
> I am working on a fairly large scale (for myself anyway) project using PHP
> and MySQL. I am victim of teaching myself to program, not separating
> presentation from my code-- all the things that lead to masses of spaghetti
> code so atrocious even I c
On 29 Sep 2003 19:22:54 -
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am working on a fairly large scale (for myself anyway) project using PHP
> and MySQL. I am victim of teaching myself to program, not separating
> presentation from my code-- all the things that lead to masses of spaghetti
> code
From: "Brent Baisley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I looked into the templating systems at first, but really wanted to try
> what they were doing myself. It ends up being very easy to implement
> using output buffering. Just look into the ob_start() command. Here is
> an example of how I load a template
[snip]
I'm not looking for an IDE or code generator so much as some practical
advice for organization and framework when developing a larger app. I
know
of PHP Fusebox, having programmed with Cold Fusion fusebox for a while,
but
it seems like that might be too much. Maybe I just need a sensical,
You should search the web for articles on MVC, Model View Controller.
This is a standard technique for separating your presentation from your
logic from your database. The concept can be applied to any programming
or scripting language since it actually falls under the much bigger
realm of desi
Chris wrote:
I am working on a fairly large scale (for myself anyway) project using PHP
and MySQL. I am victim of teaching myself to program, not separating
presentation from my code-- all the things that lead to masses of spaghetti
code so atrocious even I can't figure out what I was doing an
I am working on a fairly large scale (for myself anyway) project using PHP
and MySQL. I am victim of teaching myself to program, not separating
presentation from my code-- all the things that lead to masses of spaghetti
code so atrocious even I can't figure out what I was doing an hour ago.
I'm
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