On Mon, June 11, 2007 9:05 am, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
> There is no need to include the DST information since when on DST
> the client
> will be sending the propper offset. For example, EET+2EEST is +0200
> during
> winter and +0300 during DST.
I think you are over-simplifying things too muc
Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 18:15, Lester Caine wrote:
calender of events over a change in daylight saving I NEED to know !!!
I believe that I finally understand your thoughts. You mean that you need to
use the timezone information to know when in the future the time w
On Monday 11 June 2007 18:15, Lester Caine wrote:
> calender of events over a change in daylight saving I NEED to know !!!
I believe that I finally understand your thoughts. You mean that you need to
use the timezone information to know when in the future the time will change
(or in the past).
On 6/11/07, Stefanos Harhalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 16:05, Lester Caine wrote:
By the way, what makes you think that most people have an invalid timezone
configured? Windows XP have NTP support that is enabled by default. Without a
proper timezone this should res
Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
On Monday 11 June 2007 16:05, Lester Caine wrote:
Hope this clears things a bit...
As I actually USE a clients time offset, I know what the problem is. The DATA
is ALL stored as UTC time data, so it does not matter who enters it. It will
be stored without a tim
On Monday 11 June 2007 16:05, Lester Caine wrote:
> Timezone information is only of use for the CURRENT day - even if it is
> wrong. It is ESSENTIAL that any changes also include the daylight saving
> information. Since this is not included, all current sites handling event
> related information in
Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Richard Lynch wrote:
On Sat, June 9, 2007 8:06 am, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
Timezone: +0200
that will specify their timezone offset. This way scripts will be able
to
provide appropriate date/time strings/representations and/or content.
It's
On 6/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree with Tijnema he's hit the nail on the head. And the inability to handle
daylight time really is a big potential snag - who in North America isn't on
daylight time at some point in the year? If the timezone data is unreliable
the
I agree with Tijnema he's hit the nail on the head. And the inability to handle
daylight time really is a big potential snag - who in North America isn't on
daylight time at some point in the year? If the timezone data is unreliable
then no thinking developer will use it. The question then beco
On 6/10/07, Stefanos Harhalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Tijnema wrote:
> To get back to the point, I think that the timezone should be defined
> on what time it actually is at his PC, and what time it is on
> time.nist.gov for example, and not lookng at some setting...
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Tijnema wrote:
> To get back to the point, I think that the timezone should be defined
> on what time it actually is at his PC, and what time it is on
> time.nist.gov for example, and not lookng at some setting... Timezone
> setting is often wrong, people just update their t
but i would give it
odds over a user passed timezone.
sincerely,
Rob
http://phpyellow.com
From: Stefanos Harhalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 03:15:33 +0300
CC: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] [RFC] HTTP timezone
On Sunday 10 June 200
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Tijnema wrote:
> On 6/9/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, June 9, 2007 8:06 am, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
> > > Timezone: +0200
> > >
> > > that will specify their timezone offset. This way scripts will be able
> > > to
> > > provide appropriate date/
ve it
odds over a user passed timezone.
sincerely,
Rob
http://phpyellow.com
From: Stefanos Harhalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 03:15:33 +0300
CC: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] [RFC] HTTP timezone
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Richard Lynch w
On Sat, June 9, 2007 7:15 pm, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
> On Sunday 10 June 2007, Richard Lynch wrote:
>> On Sat, June 9, 2007 8:06 am, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
>> > Timezone: +0200
>> >
>> > that will specify their timezone offset. This way scripts will be
>> able
>> > to
>> > provide appropr
On Sunday 10 June 2007, Richard Lynch wrote:
> On Sat, June 9, 2007 8:06 am, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
> > Timezone: +0200
> >
> > that will specify their timezone offset. This way scripts will be able
> > to
> > provide appropriate date/time strings/representations and/or content.
>
> It's pretty
On 6/9/07, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, June 9, 2007 8:06 am, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
> I'm currently writting and Internet Draft candidate to describe an
> HTTP
> header that will be used to transfer timezone information from
> browsers to
> servers. Compliant browsers w
On Sat, June 9, 2007 8:06 am, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
> I'm currently writting and Internet Draft candidate to describe an
> HTTP
> header that will be used to transfer timezone information from
> browsers to
> servers. Compliant browsers will need to send a timezone string:
>
> Timezone: +020
On Sat, June 9, 2007 12:02 pm, Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
> I've already thought about providing the full time but I didn't find
> any
> applications. Can you provide some examples about its usage? How can
> you tell
> whether a user has wrong time and not wrong timezone?
You can't.
You can't tel
On Sat, June 9, 2007 11:08 am, Stut wrote:
> Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
>> On Saturday 09 June 2007, Daniel Brown wrote:
>>> On 6/9/07, Stefanos Harhalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm currently writting and Internet Draft candidate to describe
an HTTP
header that will be used
On Saturday 09 June 2007, Stut wrote:
> Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
>> I meant people using PHP to write programs also. I would dispute your
>> assertion that the majority of dynamic web pages are written in PHP. I
>> would accept an assertion that PHP is one of the most widely used
>> languages for
Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
On Saturday 09 June 2007, Stut wrote:
Just wanted the opinion of PHP people/developers since PHP programmers
will be most affected by this. Can you point me to the proper php related
list to ask?
I fail to see how "PHP programmers will be most affected by this" sinc
On Saturday 09 June 2007, Stut wrote:
> > Just wanted the opinion of PHP people/developers since PHP programmers
> > will be most affected by this. Can you point me to the proper php related
> > list to ask?
>
> I fail to see how "PHP programmers will be most affected by this" since
> it would eq
Stefanos Harhalakis wrote:
On Saturday 09 June 2007, Daniel Brown wrote:
On 6/9/07, Stefanos Harhalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm currently writting and Internet Draft candidate to describe an HTTP
header that will be used to transfer timezone information from browsers
to servers. Compli
On Saturday 09 June 2007, Daniel Brown wrote:
> On 6/9/07, Stefanos Harhalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm currently writting and Internet Draft candidate to describe an HTTP
> > header that will be used to transfer timezone information from browsers
> > to servers. Compliant browsers will
On 6/9/07, Stefanos Harhalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello there,
I'm currently writting and Internet Draft candidate to describe an HTTP
header that will be used to transfer timezone information from browsers to
servers. Compliant browsers will need to send a timezone string:
Timezone:
Hello there,
I'm currently writting and Internet Draft candidate to describe an HTTP
header that will be used to transfer timezone information from browsers to
servers. Compliant browsers will need to send a timezone string:
Timezone: +0200
that will specify their timezone offset. This way s
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