RE: [PHP] phpsadness - the second tangent...

2011-06-05 Thread Daevid Vincent
Really? This thread is going to tangent yet again to something completely irrelevant? FWIW, I used some stupid "WinLIKE" JS framework by http://ceiton.com These bastards haven't updated it since 2007 http://wiki.winlike.net/index.php/Version_History Normally not a big deal, but they "patented"

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-06-05 07:28 PM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 5 June 2011 19:15, Robert Cummings wrote: 2 words... progressive enhancement. If your browser doesn't support a feature then it should degrade gracefully. Accessible web philosophy 101. I hate going on to some website, especially government, and

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-06-05 07:28 PM, tedd wrote: At 2:15 PM -0400 6/5/11, Robert Cummings wrote: 2 words... progressive enhancement. If your browser doesn't support a feature then it should degrade gracefully. Accessible web philosophy 101. I hate going on to some website, especially government, and finding th

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Richard Quadling
On 5 June 2011 19:15, Robert Cummings wrote: > 2 words... progressive enhancement. If your browser doesn't support a > feature then it should degrade gracefully. Accessible web philosophy 101. I > hate going on to some website, especially government, and finding that it > sniffs my browser and the

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread tedd
At 2:15 PM -0400 6/5/11, Robert Cummings wrote: On 11-06-05 09:33 AM, Richard Riley wrote: Geoff Shang writes: On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Tim Streater wrote: Anyone whose site says that sort of crap needs a good smack. Don't get me started on Facebook. If they don't like your browser, they redi

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread tedd
At 6:29 PM +0100 6/5/11, Ashley Sheridan wrote: I think his point is that a lot of websites ignorantly stop browsers not on their list of compatible ones, and end up blocking browsers that would work perfectly well, just the original developer either wasn't aware or didn't care. This used to be

Re: [PHP] Help needed with php.ini

2011-06-05 Thread Camilo Sperberg
On 05-06-2011, at 10:31, Adam Tong wrote: > Hi, > > I can't set correctly the error display and reporting properties. I > don't know what i'm doing wrong. > > Here is the section that i modified in php.ini: > - > display_errors = On > ; Default Value: On > ; Development Value: On > ;

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Tim Streater
On 05 Jun 2011 at 21:28, Geoff Shang wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: > >> If they allowed incompatible browsers that caused havoc then before you >> know it the great unwashed would be demanding more and better support or >> complaining about lack of functionality. Doing what t

Re: [PHP] Re: Found this and I thought of you.

2011-06-05 Thread Ken Kixmoeller
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Jonesy wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 00:34:30 +0100, Richard Quadling wrote: >> http://www.exxcire.com/login.php >> >> If nothing more than a good "bad example". > > ROTFLMAO!!!  "Where Experts Exchange" > Sweet Jeezuz! At least they have a cute 404 page. Gotta coun

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: If they allowed incompatible browsers that caused havoc then before you know it the great unwashed would be demanding more and better support or complaining about lack of functionality. Doing what they do they make it very clear from day one. This would

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-06-05 02:25 PM, Richard Riley wrote: Ashley Sheridan writes: > I think his point is that a lot of websites ignorantly stop browsers not on their list of compatible ones, and end up blocking browsers that would work perfectly well, just the original developer either wasn't aware or didn't

[PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Richard Riley
Ashley Sheridan writes: > On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 19:23 +0200, Richard Riley wrote: > >> Geoff Shang writes: >> >> > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: >> > >> >>> I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because >> >>> they don't >> >>> support it. Many pages which do

Re: [PHP] phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-06-05 01:40 PM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 01:52:15PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: and I'm "balding" from Alopecia Me too, but in my case, it's just 'cause I'm old. ;-} My sympathies to you both... I'm baling because I produce a lot of testosterone >:D Although, e

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-06-05 01:23 PM, Richard Riley wrote: Geoff Shang writes: On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because they don't support it. Many pages which don't work optimally under Lynx can still be read, which is all I'm wanting

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-06-05 09:33 AM, Richard Riley wrote: Geoff Shang writes: On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Tim Streater wrote: Anyone whose site says that sort of crap needs a good smack. Don't get me started on Facebook. If they don't like your browser, they redirect you to their"We don't support your browser p

Re: [PHP] phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 01:52:15PM -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote: > and I'm "balding" from Alopecia Me too, but in my case, it's just 'cause I'm old. ;-} Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visi

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 19:23 +0200, Richard Riley wrote: > Geoff Shang writes: > > > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: > > > >>> I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because they > >>> don't > >>> support it. Many pages which don't work optimally under Lynx can st

[PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Richard Riley
Geoff Shang writes: > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: > >>> I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because they >>> don't >>> support it. Many pages which don't work optimally under Lynx can still be >>> read, >>> which is all I'm wanting to do anyway. >> >> They

[PHP] Re: Found this and I thought of you.

2011-06-05 Thread Jonesy
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 00:34:30 +0100, Richard Quadling wrote: > http://www.exxcire.com/login.php > > If nothing more than a good "bad example". ROTFLMAO!!! "Where Experts Exchange" Sweet Jeezuz! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Tim Streater
On 05 Jun 2011 at 16:23, Geoff Shang wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: > >>> I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because they >>> don't >>> support it. Many pages which don't work optimally under Lynx can still be >>> read, >>> which is all I'm wanting

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because they don't support it. Many pages which don't work optimally under Lynx can still be read, which is all I'm wanting to do anyway. They need to or there can be unintentional side affec

Re: [PHP] Help needed with php.ini

2011-06-05 Thread Richard Quadling
> > > And here is the output of phpinfo(): > - In the same phpinfo() output, what is the path/location of the php.ini file you are using? Loaded Configuration File D:\PHP\INI\php-cgi-fcgi.ini for example. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend : PHPDoc @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_2

[PHP] Help needed with php.ini

2011-06-05 Thread Adam Tong
Hi, I can't set correctly the error display and reporting properties. I don't know what i'm doing wrong. Here is the section that i modified in php.ini: - display_errors = On ; Default Value: On ; Development Value: On ; Production Value: Off display_startup_errors = On ; Default V

[PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Richard Riley
Geoff Shang writes: > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: > >> Why do you feel FB should support some antiquated browser that doesnt >> support any of the newer technoogies which enable security and more >> advanced client side rendering? > > I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my b

Re: [PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote: Why do you feel FB should support some antiquated browser that doesnt support any of the newer technoogies which enable security and more advanced client side rendering? I don't. I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because they don't su

[PHP] Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Richard Riley
Geoff Shang writes: > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Tim Streater wrote: > >> Anyone whose site says that sort of crap needs a good smack. > > Don't get me started on Facebook. If they don't like your browser, they > redirect you to their"We don't support your browser page". They don't even > let > you t

Re: Re: [PHP] phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Tim Streater wrote: Anyone whose site says that sort of crap needs a good smack. Don't get me started on Facebook. If they don't like your browser, they redirect you to their"We don't support your browser page". They don't even let you try with your unsupported browser,

Re: [PHP] Best authentication system

2011-06-05 Thread Richard Quadling
On 4 June 2011 23:21, Sean Greenslade wrote: > IIRC, there is a google code project for a php login system. You might want > to check it out. http://code.google.com/p/loginsystem-rd/ "Login system to prevent XSS, SQL Injection and CSRF" May be of interest. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE :

Re: Re: [PHP] phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

2011-06-05 Thread Tim Streater
On 05 Jun 2011 at 06:08, Tamara Temple wrote: > On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: >> ...actually, I do have some good ones here: >> http://daevid.com/content/examples/procmail.php > > "It appears your browser does not support some of the advanced > features this site requires. >