Re: [PHP] Top vs. Bottom Posting.

Rene Veerman wrote: +1 for top-posting.. proper nettiquette is to put replies beneath the quotes you're replying to, and deleting the rest. ultimately this 'rule' of bottomposting is laziness of the ones who like that style of quoting. they want everyone to conform to their favorite method, so

Re: [PHP] Top vs. Bottom Posting.

+1 for top-posting.. proper nettiquette is to put replies beneath the quotes you're replying to, and deleting the rest. ultimately this 'rule' of bottomposting is laziness of the ones who like that style of quoting. they want everyone to conform to their favorite method, so they can read more eff

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Stuart Dallas wrote: > On 24 Mar 2010, at 20:34, Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Ashley Sheridan >> wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 22:15 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: >> Do you have any proof of this 'market trend'? I suggested a vote,

Re: [PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Hans Åhlin wrote: >I admit that if there were native support for threading I > would use it. But I don´t want the support for threading if it > slowdown the performance. hmm i bet you can use any feature of php to slow things down.. i think what's been proven by

Re: [PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Threading, Shared memory and PHP Do PHP really need support for threads? When and why is it necessary? Why should/shouldn't it be implemented in the core? How can one implement/create similar features right now? One reason I can imagine it to be useful, is if one has lots of SQL servers, and wou

Re: [PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello Tommy, > > Am 2010-03-23 19:08:36, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: >> The response time, max 5 seconds, will be tested on local gigabit LAN >> to ensure the adequate response (optimized DB & code & proper >> hardware) without worryin

[PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Hello Daevid Vincent, Am 2010-03-24 18:13:49, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > P.S. I HATE bottom posting. WTF do I have to scroll all the way down past > hundreds of useless lines just to read a "me too" or some other comment. If > it's at the top, I can simply just keep moving from header to he

[PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Hello Robert, Am 2010-03-24 21:22:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > Matt Giddings wrote: > >unsubscribe > *lol* That hit it, -- right? Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux

[PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Hello Matt, Am 2010-03-24 21:21:35, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > ok, how do I get off this list? Realy easy... :-D You continue reading this thread and then commit suicid! If then your maibox overflow, you will automaticaly unsubscribed through the bounces. Thanks, Greetings and nice

[PHP] Re: Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Hello Tommy, Am 2010-03-24 19:16:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > 10+ million products is not hard to believe. Look at Amazon (my > future possible project is not related to Amazon nor am I endorsing > it). They sell consumer goods. Their product skus are about 30 > million, and that's not

[PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Hello Tommy, Am 2010-03-23 19:08:36, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > The response time, max 5 seconds, will be tested on local gigabit LAN > to ensure the adequate response (optimized DB & code & proper > hardware) without worrying about users' connection limit and site's > upload bandwidth limi

Re: [PHP] Top vs. Bottom Posting.

On 03/25/2010 07:04 AM, Daevid Vincent wrote: ...and where's the stupid little netiquette link about hijacking another thread? ;-) oh, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DonDiego/Thread_hijacking http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#threading That bottom posting crap is so

Re: [PHP] Top vs. Bottom Posting.

I'm sorry, but I've never had problem reading backwards in time through information. One merely understands that a piece of information is dependent on the next. Seriously, hasn't anyone else ever read history starting with now and then working their way backwards? It's just reverse chronologic

Re: [PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello Tommy Pham, > > Am 2010-03-23 18:17:56, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: >> Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example.  The manufacturers list is >> about 3,700.  The categories is about about 2,400.  The products list >> is right no

[PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Hello Tommy Pham, Am 2010-03-23 18:17:56, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example. The manufacturers list is > about 3,700. The categories is about about 2,400. The products list > is right now at 500,000 and expected to be around 750,000. The site > is onl

Re: [PHP] ssh2_connection for Web service

Thanks a lot for your advise. In fact, I thought about that as well, but I do not know how to switch the user from apache to a real user when I send a request through Web browser. I even tried to use "ssh_rsa" method instead of password authentication. But I got the same error. Command line fine, b

[PHP] Re: Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Hello Teus, You are a NOOB! ;-) You have not understood what he want. Am 2010-03-24 06:55:56, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > Well, the multiple answers for a simple request per user as in your > example, seem to be a lot of information to display all on one page, and > present all that infor

Re: [PHP] Top vs. Bottom Posting.

but no book I know of in English reads like that unless you prefer to read bottom to top which makes it very difficult to read afterwards because all the comments on the thread appear out of order Top posting doesn't make sense Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

[PHP] Top vs. Bottom Posting.

...and where's the stupid little netiquette link about hijacking another thread? ;-) oh, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DonDiego/Thread_hijacking http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#threading That bottom posting crap is so antiquated and outdated my dinosaur doesn't e

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 21:21 -0400, Matt Giddings wrote: > ok, how do I get off this list? you either follow the instructions on the page that you used to sign up to the list, or send an email to the email address listed in header of all emails from the list. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysherid

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

> > P.S. I HATE bottom posting. WTF do I have to scroll all the way down past > hundreds of useless lines just to read a "me too" or some other comment. If > it's at the top, I can simply just keep moving from header to header in > Outlook (or your email GUI of choice). DELETE as I go. Easy. Simple

RE: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

You don't. It's like hotel california. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. ;-) > -Original Message- > From: Matt Giddings [mailto:mcgid...@svsu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:22 PM > To: Matt Giddings > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

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Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

ok, how do I get off this list?

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

unsubscribe

RE: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Well, since I was the one that started this shit-storm, I'll chime in for a minute... ;-) > If you added threading to the bag of tricks it already has, > you're getting > into areas that make it more difficult to pick up for > beginners (and that's > not to mention the technical elements involve

RE: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading? - vote.

> Why don't you set up a vote to see how many developers actually *want* > threading. That would be a good indication of whether or not it is > actually worth the PHP development team spending a lot of > time on it at the loss of other features which people want more. I already did that with the

RE: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

> -Original Message- > And what you seem to be missing is that making PHP userspace > threaded is > such a major change to the underlying code base and > architecture that it > would essentially be a total and complete rewrite, and would require > people to rewrite large portions of th

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

As some of you mention that implementing threads will make the DB work harder than the standard serial operations queries, let me ask you these then: * How often does your DB server(s)/cluster utilizes 100% CPU (SMP/MC), memory, and disk IO? * How long is the duration when 100% utilization occurs?

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Per Jessen wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Per Jessen wrote

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: >> Tommy Pham wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Robert Cummings >>> wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Per Jessen wrote: >>

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > Tommy Pham wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Robert Cummings >> wrote: >>> >>> Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Per Jessen wrote: > > Tommy Pham wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Per Jessen wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Per Jessen wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen wrote: To

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > Tommy Pham wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Per Jessen wrote: >>> >>> Tommy Pham wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Per Jessen wrote: > > Tommy Pham wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 A

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On 24 Mar 2010, at 20:42, Rene Veerman wrote: > > if you ppl just stop barracading, you'll see that with relatively > minimal effort php can evolve with the times and make such things > possible for us mere mortals. Minimal effort? You clearly have no understanding of what would be involved to g

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On 24 Mar 2010, at 20:34, Rene Veerman wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Ashley Sheridan > wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 22:15 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > Do you have any proof of this 'market trend'? I suggested a vote, but you > 'nay-sayed' it on the basis that you'd lose to peop

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On 24 Mar 2010, at 19:42, Tommy Pham wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sancar Saran > wrote: >> On Wednesday 24 March 2010 03:17:56 Tommy Pham wrote: >>> Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example. The manufacturers list is >>> about 3,700. The categories is about about 2,400. The pro

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On 24 Mar 2010, at 19:35, Rene Veerman wrote: > > take this example, sorry for the crosspost; > > my main concern atm is my own cms (50-100k lines of my own); it's > graphics-heavy, does fairly complicated db based logic, and if it ever > is to be used for a site like facebook, it'll get large da

Re: [PHP] ssh2_connection for Web service

It may be a permission problem. When you try "php index.php", then its 'your-username' is trying to SSH. But when you run the script through webserver, the user 'apache' is trying to SSH. Can you just check this once. Thanks, Vikash Kumar -- http://vika.sh On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Le-s

[PHP] ssh2_connection for Web service

I can successfully create a ssh connection within a index.php file by using ssh2_connect(). But when I try to create a web service by using the same code, I got "Unable to connect to a.b.c.d (IP address) on port 22" error. In other words, if I run the command "php index.php" under shell prompt, it

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Are you suggesting that you need to be a guru in C to write threaded C code? I think the word you're looking for is competent. plz dont make me repeat myself, i've already indicated my reasons as to why i want to ke

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wednesday 24 March 2010 22:42:17 Rene Veerman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Sancar Saran wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 March 2010 21:42:53 Tommy Pham wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sancar Saran > > > > wrote: > >> > On Wednesday 24 March 2010 03:17:56 Tommy Pham wrot

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene: >and btw, use of sql where other solutions (like shared mem and threading!) is >exactly what i'm against. should read "where other solutions (...) are very likely to work better / more efficiently".. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Rene Veerman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:34 PM,

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Sancar Saran wrote: > On Wednesday 24 March 2010 21:42:53 Tommy Pham wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sancar Saran > wrote: >> > On Wednesday 24 March 2010 03:17:56 Tommy Pham wrote: >> >> Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example.  The manufacturers

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > Are you suggesting that you need to be a guru in C to write threaded C code? > I think the word you're looking for is competent. plz dont make me repeat myself, i've already indicated my reasons as to why i want to keep my codebase in 1

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 22:15 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Ashley Sheridan > wrote: > > > > > > > So you're basically saying that you'd discount anyone who opposes you > > purely because you think you kno

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wednesday 24 March 2010 21:42:53 Tommy Pham wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sancar Saran wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 March 2010 03:17:56 Tommy Pham wrote: > >> Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example. The manufacturers list is > >> about 3,700. The categories is about about 2,40

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Rob

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Cummings >> wrote: >>> >>> Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> On

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 22:15 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Ashley Sheridan > wrote: > > > > > > > So you're basically saying that you'd discount anyone who opposes you > > purely because you think you know best? > > > > Nice attitude. > > > > I ain't saying that a

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Per Jessen wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Per Jessen wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen wrote: Tommy Pham wrote: What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, la...@garfieldtech.com wrote: On 3/24/10 2:33 PM, Rene Veerman wrote: It's a debate. The dev team consider proposals and weigh in on the merits. I was a proponent for goto support during the development of PHP 5. We now have it. If you ar

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:50:15PM +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Cummings > wrote: > > > Your tools are up to date. Threading is in the future if at all... it's > > certainly not in the present. > > True, lets _keep_ 'm up-to-date, please. > > And you'

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: php is not a hammer, its a programming

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > > So you're basically saying that you'd discount anyone who opposes you > purely because you think you know best? > > Nice attitude. > I ain't saying that at all, nor did i intend to imply it. In fact it's the anti-threading/shared-mem

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 22:05 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Ashley Sheridan > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 21:50 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Cummings > > wrote: > > > Rene Veerman wrote: > > >> > > >> On Wed, M

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 21:50 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Rene Veerman wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Robert Cummings > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Rene Veerman w

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 21:50 +0200, Rene Veerman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Rene Veerman wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Robert Cummings > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Rene Veerman wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Robert Cu

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, la...@garfieldtech.com wrote: > On 3/24/10 2:33 PM, Rene Veerman wrote: > >>> It's a debate. The dev team consider proposals and weigh in on the >>> merits. I >>> was a proponent for goto support during the development of PHP 5. We now >>> have it. If you arguments

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Per Jessen wrote: > Tommy Pham wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Per Jessen wrote: >>> Tommy Pham wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen wrote: > Tommy Pham wrote: > >> What I find funny is that one of opponents of

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Robert Cummings >> wrote: >>> >>> Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> php is n

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: talk to me about this some other time.

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: php is not a hammer, its a programming language. It's hard to discuss anything with someone who doesn't comprehend a

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On 3/24/10 2:33 PM, Rene Veerman wrote: It's a debate. The dev team consider proposals and weigh in on the merits. I was a proponent for goto support during the development of PHP 5. We now have it. If you arguments are valid and there's no technical issue preventing it, and there's someone with

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Robert Cummings >> wrote: >>> >>> Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> talk

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sancar Saran wrote: > On Wednesday 24 March 2010 03:17:56 Tommy Pham wrote: >> Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example.  The manufacturers list is >> about 3,700.  The categories is about about 2,400.  The products list >> is right now at 500,000 and expected t

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: talk to me about this some other time. atm i'm having an argument with per and his kind about their very very annoy

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Jochem Maas wrote: > > Someone who respects you will buy you a sandwich if you need it. i'd rather build products that are useful enough to be sold, than to wait for anti-starvation handouts gained from respect. > > But seemingly you're only interested in leverag

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this matter of course. Wrong list. Subscribe to internals. yes, i do consider it that important. these nay-sayers usually also lob

RE: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

From: Rene Veerman > i've spent quite a bit of time on this list writing replies of my own > to other people's software problems here. > in fact i think i've spent more time on other's problems for free than > i've received back in useful tips. and i'm not bitching about that. That describes a lo

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Robert Cummings >> wrote: >>> >>> Rene Veerman wrote: php is not a hammer, its a programming language. >>> >>> It's hard to discuss anything with someone who doesn't

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Robert Cummings >> wrote: >>> >>> Rene Veerman wrote: talk to me about this some other time. atm i'm having an argument with per and his kind about their ve

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this >> matter of course. > > Wrong list. Subscribe to internals. > >> yes, i do consider it that important. > >> these nay-sayers usually also lobby

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: php is not a hammer, its a programming language. It's hard to discuss anything with someone who doesn't comprehend a metaphor. haha. "comprehend". you mean "accept". that metaphor is stretched

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Per Jessen wrote: >>> >>> Rene Veerman wrote: >>> again: a) you're determining the contents of my toolset, without it affecting you at all. the way you want it php

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> php is not a hammer, its a programming language. > > It's hard to discuss anything with someone who doesn't comprehend a > metaphor. haha. "comprehend". you mean "accept". that metaphor is stretched to breaking po

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Rene Veerman wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: Rene Veerman wrote: talk to me about this some other time. atm i'm having an argument with per and his kind about their very very annoying behaviour of determining my toolset for me. keeping a thread on topic is als

Re: [PHP] Bitly-PHP - A PHP Bitly API to shorten URLs, expand and more.

Nice point. I will implement that ;) Thanks a lot! Regards, Igor Escobar Systems Analyst & Interface Designer + http://blog.igorescobar.com + http://www.igorescobar.com + @igorescobar (twitter) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Rene Veerman wrote: > nice code, but i'd like it better if t

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: > Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> talk to me about this some other time. >> >> atm i'm having an argument with per and his kind about their very very >> annoying behaviour of determining my toolset for me. >> keeping a thread on topic is also ettiq

Re: [PHP] Bitly-PHP - A PHP Bitly API to shorten URLs, expand and more.

nice code, but i'd like it better if the comments were in english ;) the only thing i see missing is some proper error reporting (in case bit.ly is down or has changed api specs) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Igor Escobar wrote: > Hi Guys! > > Can you help me to test my new library? > It's ab

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

Tommy Pham wrote: The response time, max 5 seconds, will be tested on local gigabit LAN to ensure the adequate response (optimized DB & code & proper hardware) without worrying about users' connection limit and site's upload bandwidth limit (which can easily rectify). Then thereafter will be d

Re: [PHP] how to do cloud computing with php

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Yousif Masoud wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Rene Veerman wrote: >> >> Hi.. >> >> As a way to take a few steps back from the kinda heated "when will php >> grow up and support threading" thread, i'm requesting you people list >> how you scale from 1 se

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Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wednesday 24 March 2010 03:17:56 Tommy Pham wrote: > Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example. The manufacturers list is > about 3,700. The categories is about about 2,400. The products list > is right now at 500,000 and expected to be around 750,000. The site > is only in English. The st

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

On 3/24/10 11:06 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 24 March 2010 15:51, Robert Cummings wrote: Yes you can do that also, you seemed to want constructors though :) As for misused... variable parameters with mixed types is common enough that I wouldn't call it misuse. It's succinct and solves a prob

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Rene Veerman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Tommy Pham wrote: > > > > Funny you should mention all that. Let's say that you're longer with > > that company, either by direct employment or contract consultant. > > You've implemented C because you need

Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

> > > Rene, I don't want you to jump ship. You've been helpful to many other posters, and I appreciate various points of view on all subjects, yours included. Please bottom post in the future now that you know of their preference, and please step back for a few and take some time to relax. No ha

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

Peter Lind wrote: On 24 March 2010 16:48, Robert Cummings wrote: But now Dalmation_construct1 isn't related Dog_construct1. This seems problematic from a design perspective unless I'm missing something in your proposal. As for abusing class semantics ... I don't see it. Using separate class

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

On 24 March 2010 15:51, Robert Cummings wrote: > Yes you can do that also, you seemed to want constructors though :) As for > misused... variable parameters with mixed types is common enough that I > wouldn't call it misuse. It's succinct and solves a problem. Look at the > printf() family of func

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

On 24 March 2010 16:48, Robert Cummings wrote: > Peter Lind wrote: > > The ,... is a supported syntax. Then I'd add the appropriate docblock > for > the alternate constructors. It might be but in effect the documentation you're left with is vague and has double the a

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

Richard Quadling wrote: On 24 March 2010 15:27, Robert Cummings wrote: Are you asking a question? I'm not sure what you want here :) Does the technique I sent provide you with a solution to this problem or not? I can certainly see how your suggestion works. And in my own code, I've often mis

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

Peter Lind wrote: The ,... is a supported syntax. Then I'd add the appropriate docblock for the alternate constructors. It might be but in effect the documentation you're left with is vague and has double the amount of documentation lookups, to find out which parameters you can pass. Using a sep

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

On 24 March 2010 15:27, Robert Cummings wrote: > Are you asking a question? I'm not sure what you want here :) Does the > technique I sent provide you with a solution to this problem or not? I can certainly see how your suggestion works. And in my own code, I've often misused a method param list

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RE: [PHP]Zip and text files generated are corrupted

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Re: [PHP] Will PHP ever "grow up" and have threading?

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Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

On 24 March 2010 16:23, Robert Cummings wrote: > Peter Lind wrote: >> >> On 24 March 2010 16:09, Robert Cummings wrote: >>> >>> Peter Lind wrote: On 24 March 2010 15:33, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Peter Lind wrote: >> >> One of the main points of the OP was that you can

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

Richard Quadling wrote: The following code (which cannot currently work as PHP does not allow for method overloading) would be perfect for me. __construct(registry::RetrieveViaKey(__CLASS__, $Key)); } /** * Constructor : Partial * * This constructor wi

Re: [PHP]Zip and text files generated are corrupted

On 24 March 2010 15:19, Bastien Helders wrote: > Hi Ashley, > > No, I set the time limit high enough (set_time_limit(2*HOUR+8*MINUTE);), and > the execution stops a long time before the time limit is reached. > > It might be relevent that the web application is hosted on a Windows > Machine. > > I

Re: [PHP] Properly handling multiple constructors.

Peter Lind wrote: On 24 March 2010 16:09, Robert Cummings wrote: Peter Lind wrote: On 24 March 2010 15:33, Robert Cummings wrote: Peter Lind wrote: One of the main points of the OP was that you can document the code properly. Your example doesn't allow for nice docblocks in any way, as you

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