[PHP] mysqli_embedded_server_start

2008-01-31 Thread Kyohere Luke
Hello, Has anyone tried to use this function? Does php actually support mysql embedded server or is this just a stub for future use? I'm trying to convert a mysql-based web app to a desktop app and rather than refactor everything to use sqlite, It would be interesting if I could use mysql embedded

[PHP] Release candidate: Chisimba-2.0.0RC1

2008-01-31 Thread Paul Scott
The next major release of the Chisimba PHP5 framework is now available. Major enhancements included in this release are: - Remote downloads of modules through web interface - Upgrades of modules via package server in modulecatalogue - Skin downloads via remote package server - Updates to mod

Re: [PHP] how dod you get to do multiple mysql queries concurrently?

2008-01-31 Thread Paul Scott
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 03:40 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > I for one would really like to see a concrete example of this kind of > use of geometry columns and spacial indexes as an alternative to the stand > integer based primary keys. On one of my local postGIS tables: CREATE INDEX k1 ON kanag

[PHP] array iteration vs. ArrayIterator

2008-01-31 Thread Nathan Nobbe
all, as ive been researching SPL lately ive read several times that spl will store only the current element of the underlying collection in memory during iteration. articles that mention this will say that using these iterators should afford savings when traversing large collections. well having

Re: [PHP] how dod you get to do multiple mysql queries concurrently?

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Per Jessen schreef: Richard Lynch wrote: OK, what is a 'geometry column' and what is a 'spatial index' ? Imagine a single column combining both longitude and latitude. Now imagine an index that "knows" about long/lat, and keeps geographically "close" objects sorted in the index for you. Incl

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread mike
Go to windowsupdate. There was an update for IE6 for websites randomly crashing. I know, because I was affected. Some update broke IE6 and then you had to update a second time. Make sure you're all up to date (and restart, sigh) - and it should be good. On 1/31/08, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Daevid Vincent schreef: -Original Message- From: Jochem Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP General List Subject: Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6 Richard Heyes schreef: firefox not an option? Nope. > or anything

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

2008-01-31 Thread Greg Donald
On Jan 30, 2008 7:21 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg's my hero of the day - even if he has been banging the Ruby drum on > the PHP Stage half the night ;-) PHP is a great language. I don't plan to stop using it anytime soon. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP Genera

Re: [PHP] Re: [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Brady Mitchell
> > I don't use a mac myself but a colleague does. He seems to have apache > > and PHP installed on the machine but he generally uses the Xampp > > package. I don't know if this is the official home page or but but start > > here: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-macosx.html > Thanks Colin, >

RE: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Daevid Vincent
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > IE6 is fast and launches in 1 second. FF takes many seconds. > > Isn't that because IE6 pre-loads everything during the BOOT process, > slowing that down quite a bit?... I guess. I leave my XP box on all the ti

RE: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, January 31, 2008 4:30 pm, Daevid Vincent wrote: > Please stop with the browser wars. They're boring and tired and serve > no > purpose. +1 > IE6 is fast and launches in 1 second. FF takes many seconds. E. Isn't that because IE6 pre-loads everything during the BOOT process, slowing t

Re: [PHP] Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, January 31, 2008 3:29 pm, Mike Morton wrote: > Except that generally, when am told "next Saturday" - I take that to > mean > "the next Saturday" - just one more ambiguity in the english language > that > makes it so hard to learn I suppose! strtotime has always seemed to me like it's borde

RE: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Daevid Vincent
> -Original Message- > From: Jochem Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: PHP General List > Subject: Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6 > > Richard Heyes schreef: > >> firefox not an option? > > > > Nope. > > > > > or

Re: [PHP] Re: how do you get to do multiple mysql queries concurrently?

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, January 31, 2008 1:40 am, Per Jessen wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: > >> On Mon, January 28, 2008 2:52 pm, Per Jessen wrote: >>> True again. However, I was commenting on your assertion that >>> "Process >>> forking has EVERYTHING to do with thread safety", which I will stay >>> is >>> wron

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, January 31, 2008 12:50 pm, Richard Heyes wrote: >> PHP is a server-side page generator. It has NOTHING to do with the >> browser. >> The PHP programmer determines the content of the resulting HTML and >> the >> browser reacts to THAT. Browsers never see a line of PHP script! > > What's yo

Re: [PHP] Need assistance using sendmail or mail()

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, January 31, 2008 11:44 am, philip wrote: > > > Nathan Nobbe wrote: >> On Jan 30, 2008 2:47 AM, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Philip, please state what sort of problems you are having. mail() >>> and >>> sendmail are both easy to use from php. >>> And please don't post anothe

Re: [PHP] Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Mike Morton schreef: Good point ;) Except that generally, when am told "next Saturday" - I take that to mean "the next Saturday" - just one more ambiguity in the english language that makes it so hard to learn I suppose! The odd thing about this whole situation it that it seems to have cropped

Re: [PHP] Re: [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Chubb
On 31/01/2008, Colin Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tom Chubb wrote: > > Thanks for all your responses. > > Rich, I guess you're right! Anyway PHP is only a hobby for personal > sites, > > so I shouldn't really worry too much but wanted to get a general feel > from > > people. > > The only

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 22:36 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > Anyway, thanks for some interesting points, Rob - I like an intelligent > response. Quoting the HTTP spec to me was good - I'll have to be a > little wary of you in the future :-) I was just padding my end of week b

[PHP] Re: [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
Tom Chubb wrote: > Thanks for all your responses. > Rich, I guess you're right! Anyway PHP is only a hobby for personal sites, > so I shouldn't really worry too much but wanted to get a general feel from > people. > The only big advantage for the MBP is that it has Firewire 800 which would > be bet

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Per Jessen
Robert Cummings wrote: > So at least the spec explicitly recommends allowing the user to set > whether the referrer is sent. As such, no site should rely on it. Agreed, in principle it should not be relied upon. But then neither should MSIE[567] :-) Besides, today Firefox and Opera both allow

Re: [PHP] Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Mike Morton
Good point ;) Except that generally, when am told "next Saturday" - I take that to mean "the next Saturday" - just one more ambiguity in the english language that makes it so hard to learn I suppose! The odd thing about this whole situation it that it seems to have cropped up just after we "upgra

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 21:32 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 15:10 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > >> On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 20:49 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > >> > Robert Cummings wrote: > >> > > >> > > Information leakage is a security issue. IMHO refe

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Per Jessen
Robert Cummings wrote: > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 15:10 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 20:49 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: >> > Robert Cummings wrote: >> > >> > > Information leakage is a security issue. IMHO referer logging >> > > should need to be turned on, not off. >> > >> >

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Per Jessen
Andrew Ballard wrote: >>> Yours might be. >>> AOL users are *NOT*. >>> In peak periods, an AOL users' IP address with change with every >>> HTTP request. >> >> Surely you are joking?? Don't they use DHCP for dishing out >> addresses? I guess AOL users just have to do without https during >> peak

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 15:10 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 20:49 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > > Robert Cummings wrote: > > > > > Information leakage is a security issue. IMHO referer logging should > > > need to be turned on, not off. > > > > Rob, I appreciate your opinion,

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 20:49 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > > Information leakage is a security issue. IMHO referer logging should > > need to be turned on, not off. > > Rob, I appreciate your opinion, but like I said - when Firefox (or MSIE) > switches off REFERER by defau

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Jan 31, 2008 2:49 PM, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > > Information leakage is a security issue. IMHO referer logging should > > need to be turned on, not off. > > Rob, I appreciate your opinion, but like I said - when Firefox (or MSIE) > switches off REFERER b

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Jan 31, 2008 2:24 PM, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: > > >>> It CANNOT be tied to the IP address, because most users' IP > >>> addresses are not static. > >> > >> I think it is for the duration of the session. Mine certainly is. > > > > Yours might be. > > AOL users

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Per Jessen
Robert Cummings wrote: > Information leakage is a security issue. IMHO referer logging should > need to be turned on, not off. Rob, I appreciate your opinion, but like I said - when Firefox (or MSIE) switches off REFERER by default, we can talk again. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Maili

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 20:24 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: > > >>> It CANNOT be tied to the IP address, because most users' IP > >>> addresses are not static. > >> > >> I think it is for the duration of the session. Mine certainly is. > > > > Yours might be. > > AOL users are *NO

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Per Jessen
Eric Butera wrote: > > The fact it can be tampered with should be enough to ignore it, right? > Well, no. _anything_ can be tampered with given the right amount of resources. For instance, exactly _when_ an otherwise unbreakable encryption is borken is _only_ a matter of money. How far you g

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Per Jessen
Richard Lynch wrote: >>> It CANNOT be tied to the IP address, because most users' IP >>> addresses are not static. >> >> I think it is for the duration of the session. Mine certainly is. > > Yours might be. > AOL users are *NOT*. > In peak periods, an AOL users' IP address with change with every

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 1:50 PM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PHP is a server-side page generator. It has NOTHING to do with the browser. > > The PHP programmer determines the content of the resulting HTML and the > > browser reacts to THAT. Browsers never see a line of PHP script! > > Wh

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Heyes
PHP is a server-side page generator. It has NOTHING to do with the browser. The PHP programmer determines the content of the resulting HTML and the browser reacts to THAT. Browsers never see a line of PHP script! What's your point? -- Richard Heyes http://www.websupportsolutions.co.uk Knowle

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, January 30, 2008 9:42 pm, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 7:58 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't use SPL because it makes my head spin to read it, and I >> never >> ever try to do something as silly as iterate over a *LARGE* array in >> end-user pages. > > are th

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 1:29 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, January 31, 2008 1:19 am, Per Jessen wrote: > > Richard Lynch wrote: > > > >> On Tue, January 29, 2008 12:48 pm, Per Jessen wrote: > >>> Robert Cummings wrote: > >>> > Actually, now you made me think on it... the prima

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings schreef: On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:02 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: ... Would you believe me if I said I wasn't in IT? ;) My wife isn't in IT, but she uses Opera regularly, she likes it's speed and the way it zooms. My 4 year old son loves Opera, but he doesn't know anything else

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings schreef: On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:42 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: Nathan Nobbe schreef: i like opera for 4 reasons, 1. it renders fast 2. when i have 50 tabs open, its still responsive 3. it supports ctrl+z, wicked feature :> undo? undo what? What you just typed into a form, or

Re: [PHP] [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Chubb
On 31/01/2008, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, January 31, 2008 11:29 am, Tom Chubb wrote: > > I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing > > music > > using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a > > MacBook. > > However, I am consid

Re: [PHP] Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, January 31, 2008 1:19 am, Per Jessen wrote: > Richard Lynch wrote: > >> On Tue, January 29, 2008 12:48 pm, Per Jessen wrote: >>> Robert Cummings wrote: >>> Actually, now you made me think on it... the primary reason I disable referrer logging is because it will also pass alon

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 19:06 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > Robert Cummings schreef: > > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:02 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > > ... > > > Would you believe me if I said I wasn't in IT? ;) My wife isn't in IT, > > but she uses Opera regularly, she likes it's speed and the way it z

Re: [PHP] Need assistance using sendmail or mail()

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Chubb
On 31/01/2008, philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Nathan Nobbe wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2008 2:47 AM, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Philip, please state what sort of problems you are having. mail() and > >> sendmail are both easy to use from php. > >> And please don't post ano

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Jan 31, 2008 1:03 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Cummings schreef: > > What you just typed into a form, or erased and decide you actually want, > > etc. > > FF does that - at least it does for me, has done for as long as I can > remember. it doesnt let you reclaim lost ta

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 19:03 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > Robert Cummings schreef: > > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:42 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > >> Nathan Nobbe schreef: > >>> i like opera for 4 reasons, > >>> 1. it renders fast > >>> 2. when i have 50 tabs open, its still responsive > >>> 3. it suppo

Re: [PHP] Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
Maybe it's just me, but I've never quite figured out what people mean when they say "next Saturday"... Do they mean the next one coming up? Or do they mean that there's "this Saturday" coming up and "next Saturday" the one after that? And if I can't figure it out, why would you expect PHP to fig

Re: [PHP] [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Jason Pruim
On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Tom Chubb wrote: I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing music using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a MacBook. However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using that as my development server

Re: [PHP] [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, January 31, 2008 11:29 am, Tom Chubb wrote: > I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing > music > using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a > MacBook. > However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using > that as > my developm

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Mr Webber schreef: PHP is a server-side page generator. It has NOTHING to do with the browser. The PHP programmer determines the content of the resulting HTML and the browser reacts to THAT. Browsers never see a line of PHP script! yes I think Richard knows that. he was asking whether anybod

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:42 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > Nathan Nobbe schreef: > > i like opera for 4 reasons, > > 1. it renders fast > > 2. when i have 50 tabs open, its still responsive > > 3. it supports ctrl+z, wicked feature :> > > undo? undo what? What you just typed into a form, or erased

Re: [PHP] [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Tom Chubb schreef: I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing music using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a MacBook. However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using that as my development server too at which point I'm wondering w

Re: [PHP] [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 12:29 PM, Tom Chubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I guess what I'm asking is, does having Apache, MySQL & PHP installed on > a Mac use much system resources? Nope. I used to run it on an old G4 as a desktop just fine. ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To uns

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 12:25 -0500, Eric Butera wrote: > On Jan 31, 2008 12:16 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you didn't state anything of the sort until just then. > > and you do realise that Acid2 is not actually a standard AND that there > > are plenty of differences of opinion r

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:18 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > Eric Butera schreef: > > On Jan 31, 2008 12:02 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Robert Cummings schreef: > >>> On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 17:14 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > let's not forget that nobody outside of IT actually use

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 12:32 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i like opera for 4 reasons, > 1. it renders fast > 2. when i have 50 tabs open, its still responsive > 3. it supports ctrl+z, wicked feature :> > 4. when you close and reopen, all the tabs from before are still there; key > > howev

Re: [PHP] Need assistance using sendmail or mail()

2008-01-31 Thread philip
Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 2:47 AM, Per Jessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Philip, please state what sort of problems you are having. mail() and >> sendmail are both easy to use from php. >> And please don't post another 2000 lines of code. No-one is going to >> read them. >>

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 18:02 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > Robert Cummings schreef: > > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 17:14 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > >> let's not forget that nobody outside of IT actually uses Opera > > > > Please back up that st-ass-tistic please. Methinks you reached around > > and pull

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Nathan Nobbe schreef: i like opera for 4 reasons, 1. it renders fast 2. when i have 50 tabs open, its still responsive 3. it supports ctrl+z, wicked feature :> undo? undo what? 4. when you close and reopen, all the tabs from before are still there; key however, firefox is the champion for we

RE: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Mr Webber
PHP is a server-side page generator. It has NOTHING to do with the browser. The PHP programmer determines the content of the resulting HTML and the browser reacts to THAT. Browsers never see a line of PHP script! -Original Message- From: Richard Heyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: T

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Nathan Nobbe
i like opera for 4 reasons, 1. it renders fast 2. when i have 50 tabs open, its still responsive 3. it supports ctrl+z, wicked feature :> 4. when you close and reopen, all the tabs from before are still there; key however, firefox is the champion for web development. not only is firebug awesome, b

[PHP] [Slightly OT] Apple MacBook MAMP and Logic

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Chubb
I am looking to buy a Mac in a couple of weeks primarily for writing music using Apple Logic Studio 8 which will run absolutely fine on a MacBook. However, I am considering installing something like MAMP and using that as my development server too at which point I'm wondering whether I should inves

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 12:16 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you didn't state anything of the sort until just then. > and you do realise that Acid2 is not actually a standard AND that there > are plenty of differences of opinion regarding the minutae of 'proper > implementation' of some of th

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Richard Heyes schreef: Jochem Maas wrote: Richard Heyes schreef: firefox not an option? Nope. > or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-) Strange, IE has been working fine for me for the last eight years... that's the kind of thing people say just after they hear they have pr

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Eric Butera schreef: On Jan 31, 2008 12:02 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Cummings schreef: On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 17:14 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: let's not forget that nobody outside of IT actually uses Opera Please back up that st-ass-tistic please. Methinks you reached ar

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Eric Butera schreef: On Jan 31, 2008 11:14 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Butera schreef: On Jan 31, 2008 9:27 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Butera schreef: On Jan 31, 2008 7:33 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard Heyes schreef: Anyone have

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Heyes
Jochem Maas wrote: Richard Heyes schreef: firefox not an option? Nope. > or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-) Strange, IE has been working fine for me for the last eight years... that's the kind of thing people say just after they hear they have prostrate cancer ;-) Lol

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 12:02 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Cummings schreef: > > On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 17:14 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > >> let's not forget that nobody outside of IT actually uses Opera > > > > Please back up that st-ass-tistic please. Methinks you reached around > >

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings schreef: On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 17:14 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: let's not forget that nobody outside of IT actually uses Opera Please back up that st-ass-tistic please. Methinks you reached around and pulled it out of your lightless nether regions. given that you can prove any

Re: [PHP] Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Chubb
On 31/01/2008, Mike Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ya - the other server is 4.4.7 > > However - this does not seem to be the problem necessarily: > > print date("m/d/Y",strtotime("next saturday")); > 02/09/2008 > > print date("m/d/Y",strtotime("next sunday")); > 02/10/2008 > > print date("m/

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 11:14 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Butera schreef: > > On Jan 31, 2008 9:27 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Eric Butera schreef: > >> > >>> On Jan 31, 2008 7:33 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Heyes schreef: > > Anyo

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Heyes
Robert Cummings wrote: On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 17:14 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: let's not forget that nobody outside of IT actually uses Opera Please back up that st-ass-tistic please. Methinks you reached around and pulled it out of your lightless nether regions. I wouldn't say nobody, but cer

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 17:14 +0100, Jochem Maas wrote: > let's not forget that nobody outside of IT actually uses Opera Please back up that st-ass-tistic please. Methinks you reached around and pulled it out of your lightless nether regions. Cheers, Rob. -- .-

Re: [PHP] Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Mike Morton
Ya - the other server is 4.4.7 However - this does not seem to be the problem necessarily: print date("m/d/Y",strtotime("next saturday")); 02/09/2008 print date("m/d/Y",strtotime("next sunday")); 02/10/2008 print date("m/d/Y",strtotime("next monday")); 02/11/2008 print date("m/d/Y",strtotime("

[PHP] Re: Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Nathan Rixham
Mike Morton wrote: I have been using: $nextSaturday= date("m/d/Y",strtotime("next saturday")); For months long time now with out problems, but in the last two days, it went kind of funky. It is now returning: 02/09/2008 instead of the expected 02/02/2008. I have tried the same code on anothe

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Richard Heyes schreef: firefox not an option? Nope. > or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-) Strange, IE has been working fine for me for the last eight years... that's the kind of thing people say just after they hear they have prostrate cancer ;-) seriously though - why i

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Eric Butera schreef: On Jan 31, 2008 9:27 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Butera schreef: On Jan 31, 2008 7:33 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard Heyes schreef: Anyone have any trouble with this combination? It consistently crashes for me. firefox not an opti

Re: [PHP] Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Chubb
On 31/01/2008, Mike Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been using: > > $nextSaturday= date("m/d/Y",strtotime("next saturday")); > > For months long time now with out problems, but in the last two days, it > went kind of funky. It is now returning: > > 02/09/2008 instead of the expected 0

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

2008-01-31 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Jan 31, 2008 9:47 AM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you mean you have a schema in a db with a bunch of tables? there is a > symfony task for that. symfony propel-build-schema > > or if you use propel alone: > > http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/wiki/Users/Documentation/1.3/HowTos/Existi

[PHP] Strtotime returns 02/09/2008 for "next Saturday"....

2008-01-31 Thread Mike Morton
I have been using: $nextSaturday= date("m/d/Y",strtotime("next saturday")); For months long time now with out problems, but in the last two days, it went kind of funky. It is now returning: 02/09/2008 instead of the expected 02/02/2008. I have tried the same code on another server and differen

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 9:27 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Butera schreef: > > > On Jan 31, 2008 7:33 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Richard Heyes schreef: > >>> Anyone have any trouble with this combination? It consistently crashes > >>> for me. > >> firefox not an opt

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

2008-01-31 Thread Zoltán Németh
2008. 01. 31, csütörtök keltezéssel 09.41-kor Nathan Nobbe ezt írta: > On Jan 31, 2008 3:24 AM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never write the xml for propel. we use DBDesigner (although > it is not > a well-written software, and there are problems with running

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

2008-01-31 Thread Nathan Nobbe
im curious, greg, what the ruby guys do for code documentation. for php there is phpDocumentor or doxygen. i like them both. propel has support for the former so when i generate the code from a schema.xml file, the next thing i do is generate the phpDocumentor-based docs for my project which is ju

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Cummings
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 14:35 +, Richard Heyes wrote: > > firefox not an option? > > Nope. > > > or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-) > > Strange, IE has been working fine for me for the last eight years... I can see your point. If all you know is subpar then subpar works fi

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

2008-01-31 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Jan 31, 2008 3:24 AM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never write the xml for propel. we use DBDesigner (although it is not > a well-written software, and there are problems with running it on > linux) and convert its xml files automatically to propel format. what's > more we have

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Heyes
firefox not an option? Nope. > or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-) Strange, IE has been working fine for me for the last eight years... -- Richard Heyes http://www.websupportsolutions.co.uk Knowledge Base and Helpdesk software for £299pa hosted for you - no installation, no

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Eric Butera schreef: On Jan 31, 2008 7:33 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Richard Heyes schreef: Anyone have any trouble with this combination? It consistently crashes for me. firefox not an option? or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-) http://pear.php.net Thanks.

[PHP] Re: Where is FAM ?

2008-01-31 Thread M. Sokolewicz
Anup Shukla wrote: Hi all, The manual says, XXXVII. File Alteration Monitor Functions .. .. Note: This extension has been moved to the » PECL repository and is no longer bundled with PHP as of PHP 5.1.0. .. .. But i am unable to locate it on PECL either. Is there any way to use FAM/GAMIN wi

Re: [PHP] Another question about functions...

2008-01-31 Thread Jason Pruim
On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Zoltán Németh wrote: I can try :) when I downloaded in clicking on the link, and tried to open it OS X popped on a message saying that I had downloaded an applicaiton and it was the first time I had tried to open it, was I sure that I wanted to, and I could view th

Re: [PHP] Another question about functions...

2008-01-31 Thread Zoltán Németh
2008. 01. 31, csütörtök keltezéssel 08.12-kor Jason Pruim ezt írta: > On Jan 30, 2008, at 7:53 PM, Richard Lynch wrote: > > > On Tue, January 29, 2008 1:39 pm, Jason Pruim wrote: > >> Okay, so I checked everything I can think of, and it's still > >> downloading it as an application which means it'

Re: [PHP] Another question about functions...

2008-01-31 Thread Jason Pruim
On Jan 30, 2008, at 7:53 PM, Richard Lynch wrote: On Tue, January 29, 2008 1:39 pm, Jason Pruim wrote: Okay, so I checked everything I can think of, and it's still downloading it as an application which means it's downloading the entire website instead of just the data from the database... Any

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Eric Butera
On Jan 31, 2008 7:33 AM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Heyes schreef: > > Anyone have any trouble with this combination? It consistently crashes > > for me. > > firefox not an option? or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-) > > > > > http://pear.php.net > > > > Thank

Re: [PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Jochem Maas
Richard Heyes schreef: Anyone have any trouble with this combination? It consistently crashes for me. firefox not an option? or anything else that resembles a proper browser ;-) http://pear.php.net Thanks. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://ww

[PHP] PEAR website and MSIE 6

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Heyes
Anyone have any trouble with this combination? It consistently crashes for me. http://pear.php.net Thanks. -- Richard Heyes http://www.websupportsolutions.co.uk Knowledge Base and Helpdesk software for £299pa hosted for you - no installation, no maintenance, new features automatic and free -

[PHP] Where is FAM ?

2008-01-31 Thread Anup Shukla
Hi all, The manual says, XXXVII. File Alteration Monitor Functions .. .. Note: This extension has been moved to the » PECL repository and is no longer bundled with PHP as of PHP 5.1.0. .. .. But i am unable to locate it on PECL either. Is there any way to use FAM/GAMIN with PHP ? -- Regards

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

2008-01-31 Thread Zoltán Németh
2008. 01. 30, szerda keltezéssel 13.33-kor Greg Donald ezt írta: > On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just pointing out that the rails guys dont have much wiggle room. > > surely, youre familiar w/ this post: > > http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/7_reaso

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

2008-01-31 Thread Zoltán Németh
2008. 01. 30, szerda keltezéssel 13.01-kor Greg Donald ezt írta: > On Jan 30, 2008 12:15 PM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's opinionated software and is certainly not for everyone. > > > > ok it's not for everyone, certainly not for me. but what is it from your > > point of view