Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6 server deployment and no home directory

2017-04-15 Thread Holger Freyther
> On 15. Apr 2017, at 07:59, Holger Freyther wrote: > > > * Why isn't the migration from Ston to Fuel more explicit? > * Why is "load" trying to save? > * Why is "ensure:" used instead of load? > * Not sure why "self preferences exists" seems to end in true? Is there an option to not run start

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Alistair Grant
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 06:43:39AM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote: > On 14 April 2017 at 22:20, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > > This is what we always have when we release and we freeze it. > The vm 60 will be compatible with latest pharo 60 image. > > > It is possible that I have misunderstood

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 09:12, Alistair Grant wrote: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 06:43:39AM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote: > > The latest stable image release is Pharo-50771.image. > > The latest stable VM source release is pharo-vm-2016.02.18. > > These two releases are not compatible: This interpreter (ve

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Alistair Grant
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 09:50:29AM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote: > On 15 April 2017 at 09:12, Alistair Grant wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 06:43:39AM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote: > > The latest stable image release is Pharo-50771.image. > > The latest stable VM source release is pharo-v

Re: [Pharo-users] Traits score: Squeak: 1, Pharo5: 0

2017-04-15 Thread Hilaire
Great! It is nice you can reproduce it, because my attempt failed with the exemple package attached. Le 15/04/2017 à 08:14, Nicolai Hess a écrit : > > Le 14/04/2017 à 15:24, Denis Kudriashov a écrit : > > > > Could you create example set of packages to reproduce problem? (to be >

[Pharo-users] Pharo6 ombu-session files in pharo-local

2017-04-15 Thread Holger Freyther
Hi, as part of moving a test image from Pharo5 to Pharo6 I also noticed that on each start a new "ombu-session" folder will be created (and never cleaned up). For a server-side deployment this is quite unfortunate as I want/need to use a fixed amount of disk space. I think Norbert has similar

Re: [Pharo-users] Traits score: Squeak: 1, Pharo5: 0

2017-04-15 Thread Hilaire
Indeed that's it. Adding methods after the second traits was created shows up the bug. I open a ticket. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19938/Traits-methods-flattened Le 15/04/2017 à 08:14, Nicolai Hess a écrit : > > How to reproduce: > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 10:08, Alistair Grant wrote: > How about trying: > > $ git clone https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git > $ cd pharo-vm > $ git checkout b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed > > and build that? It should be the source code for the binary VM on > get.pharo.org. > F

Re: [Pharo-users] Traits score: Squeak: 1, Pharo5: 0

2017-04-15 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 15/04/2017 à 08:14, Nicolai Hess a écrit : > How to reproduce: > > "Create a Trait" > Trait named:#TRoot > uses:{} package:'MyPackage'. > > "Add some methods" > (Smalltalk classOrTraitNamed:'TRoot') compile:'trootA'. > (Smalltalk classOrTraitNamed:'TRoot') compile:'trootB'. > (Smalltalk class

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6 ombu-session files in pharo-local

2017-04-15 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 15/04/2017 à 10:24, Holger Freyther a écrit : > Hi, > > as part of moving a test image from Pharo5 to Pharo6 I also noticed that on > each start a new "ombu-session" folder will be created (and never cleaned > up). For a server-side deployment this is quite unfortunate as I want/need to > us

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Alistair Grant
Hi Luke, On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:34:31AM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote: > On 15 April 2017 at 10:08, Alistair Grant wrote: > > How about trying: > > $ git clone https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git > $ cd pharo-vm > $ git checkout b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread K K Subbu
On Friday 14 April 2017 03:39 PM, Luke Gorrie wrote: - The latest Pharo VM source release is compatible with the latest Pharo image. This is too strong a condition. For the OS, an image is just a filesystem within a file. It is sufficient if the VM does not use the same executable name if it

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Alistair Grant
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 09:53:49AM +, Alistair Grant wrote: > > If you just want to build a single V6 pharo executable (no scripts, > linux 64 bit in the example below): > > -- > #!/bin/bash > set -e > > git clone https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git > git checkout > cd pharo-vm/op

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 11:53, Alistair Grant wrote: > (actually, I'm not sure why you're bothering since 6 should > be out before the end of the month, but that's your choice :-)). > I just want something stable and reasonably modern for running existing applications and building new ones. If that

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Alistair Grant
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 02:14:26PM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote: > On 15 April 2017 at 11:53, Alistair Grant wrote: > > (actually, I'm not sure why you're bothering since 6 should > be out before the end of the month, but that's your choice :-)). > > > I just want something stable and reaso

Re: [Pharo-users] How can I set the SmaccDebugParser in Moose

2017-04-15 Thread Stephane Ducasse
John? How do we activate the Smacc debugger in moose? On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Andrei Chis wrote: > Not exactly sure how to do to it because I never used it. > From what I see in SmaCCParserDebugger>>handlesContext: if you have in > the stack a context created by SmaCCParser>>parse you

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6 ombu-session files in pharo-local

2017-04-15 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Yes this is what we want to do to help the deployment aspect of Pharo. But this is work in perspective. Once we will have something we will ask you to try and let us know if this is working for you. Laste year I started to check because I wanted a silent Pharo: no hidden writing on files but the c

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
this belongs to pharo-dev, please continue there :) > On 15 Apr 2017, at 14:25, Alistair Grant wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 02:14:26PM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote: >> On 15 April 2017 at 11:53, Alistair Grant wrote: >> >>(actually, I'm not sure why you're bothering since 6 should >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 14:45, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > this belongs to pharo-dev, please continue there :) > Looks to me like I should make a small replacement for mvm that is for nix. Nix indeed does its own thing. The downside is that it's restricted: the build runs in a sandbox, can't touch

[Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 On windows crash while trying to run AthensFlakeDemo

2017-04-15 Thread Ricardo Pacheco
I have been trying to run the AthensFlakeDemo in Pharo 6, updated as of today, in Windows 10 using this command: AthensFlakeDemo new openInWorld. Every time I run it, Pharo crashes. It looks to me like a bug, but before reporting a bug I want to ask you if I need to install/do something else pr

[Pharo-users] best practices for using external files for testing

2017-04-15 Thread Peter Uhnak
Hi, is there a common/best practice for using external files in tests? In my specific case I am interested in git-based projects, where I have a big (~1MB) file stored in repository and I would like to use it in my tests. For GitFileTree project I could presumably use the following to access it

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Prometheas : a Pharo wiki database

2017-04-15 Thread Juraj Kubelka
Nice! Could you provide the database content using JSON REST API? We could then have this as a part of Help Browser. Cheers, Juraj -- Juraj Kubelka > El 14-04-2017, a las 09:30, Dimitris Chloupis > escribió: > > Part of my Discord bot as a goal was to add the ability to create database >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo6 server deployment and no home directory

2017-04-15 Thread Juraj Kubelka
> El 15-04-2017, a las 04:11, Holger Freyther escribió: > > >> On 15. Apr 2017, at 07:59, Holger Freyther wrote: >> >> >> * Why isn't the migration from Ston to Fuel more explicit? >> * Why is "load" trying to save? >> * Why is "ensure:" used instead of load? >> * Not sure why "self prefere

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 On windows crash while trying to run AthensFlakeDemo

2017-04-15 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
it works for me (on Win7) so the rigor questions: 1) VM version? 2) Image version? If is not the same, can you try with this one: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-win-latest.zip and latest 6.0 image and tell me what happens? thanks! Esteban > On 15 Apr 2017, at 17:50, Ricardo Pachec

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 On windows crash while trying to run AthensFlakeDemo

2017-04-15 Thread Ricardo Pacheco
Esteban, My computer is using Windows 10. I'm using the Pharo Launcher 0.2.11-2016.09.22 (as indicated in the README.txt or 3.0.20131220 as indicated in the Control panel's Programs and characteristics). (http://files.pharo.org/platform/launcher/pharo_installer-0.2.11.exe) The image I was using

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 On windows crash while trying to run AthensFlakeDemo

2017-04-15 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
you need to also download the sources: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/sources.zip and put them aside of the image (or the vm), otherwise it will not work. cheers, Esteban ps: PharoLauncher is shipping with an old VM and most probably many things on Pharo 6.0 will not work. Hopefully the

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 On windows crash while trying to run AthensFlakeDemo

2017-04-15 Thread Ricardo Pacheco
Thanks a lot Esteban. This time everything worked OK and the demo run without a problem. So the crash I was facing must be related to the VM included in the PharoLauncher. Should I report it or do something about that? Thanks, Ricardo -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 On windows crash while trying to run AthensFlakeDemo

2017-04-15 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 15 Apr 2017, at 23:50, Ricardo Pacheco > wrote: > > Thanks a lot Esteban. This time everything worked OK and the demo run without > a problem. > > So the crash I was facing must be related to the VM included in the > PharoLauncher. > > Should I report it or do something about that? no,

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 On windows crash while trying to run AthensFlakeDemo

2017-04-15 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
On 16/04/2017 00:11, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > no, is a known issue, then. > maybe some launcher user can tell you how to update the vm? > > Esteban > Hi, Launcher user here! Download the latest vm, put it were you can execute it (mine is in C:\Program Files(x86)\Pharo\vmSpur for example,

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Prometheas : a Pharo wiki database

2017-04-15 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I plan to embed it inside the playground and create a small Pharo API for it. If I can I will provide access for it from the right click menu , like do it and print it . It will take sometime but it's coming inside Pharo. On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 at 20:43, Juraj Kubelka wrote: > Nice! > > Could you pr

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 On windows crash while trying to run AthensFlakeDemo

2017-04-15 Thread Ricardo Pacheco
Thanks a lot Cyril. Worked very well!! Regards, Ricardo -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-On-windows-crash-while-trying-to-run-AthensFlakeDemo-tp4942238p4942265.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] why is adding instance variables so slow?

2017-04-15 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Please let’s move this discussion on pharo-dev. And keep going :) Cheers, Doru > On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:09 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > > 2017-04-14 11:09 GMT+02:00 teso...@gmail.com : > Hi, I think the problem was not clearly explained. This is the scenario that > is problematic.