[Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

2016-01-10 Thread David Allouche
Hello, It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable. http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/Kernel.html&classView=class/Proto

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > We are about to integrate in Pharo a new member of the Glamorous Toolkit: > the GTDebugger. As this is a significant change that might affect your > workflow, here is some background information to help you deal with the > change. > > F

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Personally I dont mind if its the default or not and I dont judge things unless i try them for a considerably amount of time. Pharo is not and will not be begineer friendly for at least the not so distant future. Its not a matter of whether the GTDebugger becomes the default or not. There are a l

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 10 Jan 2016, at 15:48, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > Personally I dont mind if its the default or not and I dont judge things > unless i try them for a considerably amount of time. > > Pharo is not and will not be begineer friendly for at least the not so > distant future. Its not a matt

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
"I know you mean well, that you only want to encourage people to work on these areas, but it hurts me (personally) quite a bit if you say it like that - because statements like that are like a self fulfilling prophecy and very bad advertising that is hard to counter. I have written many serious li

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Sven Van Caekenberghe's message of 2016-01-10 16:21:10 +0100: > I have written many serious libraries with lot's of documentation and I have > supported them for years, I have written standalone articles for various > audiences and I am active on the ML's; I did my part for your point

[Pharo-users] Twisted trait

2016-01-10 Thread Hilaire
Hi, When I remove a method from a trait, then save, Monticelly complains it can not find the method in the trait. Seen on Pharo3 Any idea? Thanks -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, I have taught with (I)Python and Pharo to non programmers or beginners and I would say, from that direct experience that Pharo is easier because it has an easier syntax, an uniform way of programming and a continuity between scripting, apps, code, code management and docs. So I will be ta

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread stepharo
How come? It would be nice to think that such statements will be read by people not from our world and such statements are WRONG! a) Lack of substantial documentation b) Complete lack of begineer orientated documentation c) Lack of substantial begineer friendly libraries d) Lack of Libraries in

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec: Populating a playground with a particular content (was Re: Spec: Binding widgets how to)

2016-01-10 Thread Johan Fabry
Sorry for the lateness and short reply but I’m involved in a bunch of other things that are taking almost all of my time ... From what I understand and what I can see in your code, you want to modify a widget when the UI is open. However you never trigger the rebuilding of the window. For examp

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Johan Fabry
It looks much better to me, yes. I would need to use it some time before I could give more detailed feedback. (And I can’t really do that until the FFI is fixed, because all my development crashes the VM since I am using Roassal. So I am still on the last Pharo version before the VM switch.) On

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

2016-01-10 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Dear David, yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool. Regards, On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Da

[Pharo-users] I am David Allouche, let me introduce myself.

2016-01-10 Thread David Allouche
Hello folks. Some people have already seen me on Twitter and Slack, but I believe there might be some people on the mailing list that did not see those conversations. As I have done on Slack, I am writing this introduction so people have an idea where I come from and what is my business with Ph

Re: [Pharo-users] I am David Allouche, let me introduce myself.

2016-01-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Welcome! To get faster to the intellectual stimulation, pick a task / project and start asking questions. And have fun :). Cheers, Doru > On Jan 10, 2016, at 11:37 PM, David Allouche wrote: > > Hello folks. > > Some people have already seen me on Twitter and Slack, but I believe there > mi

Re: [Pharo-users] I am David Allouche, let me introduce myself.

2016-01-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Welcome , David, thats a quite a resume. HyperCard looks like its shares quite a lot in common with Smalltalk. From what you write I think you will love Pharo, its a very active, passionate smalltalk community and Pharo is moving forward very fast since we are constantly growing. I think you love

Re: [Pharo-users] I am David Allouche, let me introduce myself.

2016-01-10 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Welcome David! Alexandre > On Jan 10, 2016, at 6:37 PM, David Allouche wrote: > > Hello folks. > > Some people have already seen me on Twitter and Slack, but I believe there > might be some people on the mailing list that did not see those conversations. > > As I have done on Slack, I am wr

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Docs website broken

2016-01-10 Thread David Allouche
I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part. But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be r

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread John Pfersich
Sent from my iPad > On Jan 10, 2016, at 06:08, Ben Coman wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We are about to integrate in Pharo a new member of the Glamorous Toolkit: >> the GTDebugger. As this is a significant change that might affect your >>