Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

2015-01-17 Thread Ben Coman
My favourite reference is Eric S Raymond's "How To Ask Smart Questions". http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. Now actually its a friendlier community here that the ones referred to in that reference, but it provides some good philosophies to adhere to. Reporting back success as well

[Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

2015-01-17 Thread horrido
http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/ *Today is the one-month anniversary of the SRP.* We have made good progress, but there is still much work ahead of us. Shortly, I will be seeking corporate sponsorship. As well, I'm trying to coordinate activities with the Sm

[Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread horrido
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2867543/java/redline-smalltalk-bridging-smalltalk-jvm-worlds.html Amber and Redline are vital *strategic* projects for Smalltalk. One is for the browser and one

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread horrido
I had never heard of RTalk or Gravel. In all my Googling, I've never come across these two. They're obviously not on the minds of very many people. Are they even active projects? At least Redline is relatively prominent. At least James Ladd is actively working on it. His efforts should be commende

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread horrido
I agree that Amber is important, given that client-side web development is the /fad du jour/. But having a Smalltalk on the JVM is also important if we want to penetrate the enterprise. JVM is the closest thing we have to a "standard" enterprise platform. Languages such as Scala and Groovy have ha

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
If Redline is ready and good to build native (Java) Android apps with it, I'll be one of the first ones to try it. So I look forward to Redline 1.0 :) Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-01-17 13:46 GMT-03:00 horrido : > I agree that Amber is important, given that client-side web development is > the /f

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread kilon alios
There was a promise long time ago that RTalk will be released soon enough and never happened. The difference with RTalk is not that is just smalltalk language on JVM , which frankly I dont care that much, but also the entire IDE, basically they replaced the Smalltalk bytecode with JVM bytecode and

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread horrido
kilon.alios wrote > Porting code to JVM and Javascript has 3 issues > > a) you are no longer able to use the libraries of your popular > implementation (see Pharo) unless you wrap those libraries with something > like JNA (a ffi for JAVA) > b) most people would not use JVM unless if they have to a

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread Sebastian Sastre
> On Jan 17, 2015, at 3:18 PM, kilon alios wrote: > > So overall I doubt that Smalltalk will ever be a big hit on JVM or > Javascript. Everybody is a looser if you frame it in that perspective. That game is not interesting, nor strategy wise. An interesting alternative is to create the oppo

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread horrido
Thanks for this link! I always thought there was something not right about Angular, and this article (and its links) clearly lay out the issue. Obviously, I think Amber is a better solution. The one big takeaway from these anti-Angular articles, I think, is this... /IT management often make stu

Re: [Pharo-users] InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk

2015-01-17 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 8:00 AM, horrido wrote: > > > /IT management often make stupid choices based on fad, fashion, and > laziness./ I think partly its that above IT management you have non-IT management, who ask "who else is using it".Big companies often have trouble with the risk of inno

Re: [Pharo-users] [Bulk] Blitzkrieg!

2015-01-17 Thread Yanni Chiu
On Jan 17, 2015, at 10:15 AM, horrido wrote: > Later this summer, I will be pushing my "Small Minds Initiative," a > sub-campaign of the SRP to get Smalltalk into the classroom. I will begin > with the Toronto District School Board. Are you going to approach them from the point of view of: - co

[Pharo-users] parsing a file / stream API advice

2015-01-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
This is an OO design question. For my task, I have some objects and a particular file format that encodes them. I want to be able to read the file and create those objects. The Stream API seems like the right way to do this, but I'm not sure how to encapsulate my code. I see these options: •

[Pharo-users] Nautilus plugin with new menu entries

2015-01-17 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi, If you are using Pharo 3 you may install a Nautilus plugin I did which implements the following menu item features: - Jump to the superclass of the currently selected class. - Explore all the instances of the currently selected class. - Send #release and #initialize to the currently selected c