Re: [Pharo-users] Your picture on Pharo contributors :)

2014-09-26 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
With all due respect, I am reluctant to sign this agreement. It commits me to whatever might be published at the given URL at any time in the future. I wonder why you didn't make the agreement concrete by copying the current text into it? Current contents of

Re: [Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo

2014-09-26 Thread kilon alios
have you tried Ephestos ? does it work for you ? do you like the way it works ? what you want to do with it ? I would appreciate some feedback. It does work well for me so far, but of course I want to read other people's opinion about it. I want to make it very easy for pharoers to port python

[Pharo-users] How to set a white background with Spec ?

2014-09-26 Thread Annick Fron
Hi, I am using a window with spec, where can I define a white background for it ? Annick

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-26 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 25 Sep 2014, at 8:55 , Alain Rastoul wrote: > Le 25/09/2014 07:23, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : >> >> On 25 Sep 2014, at 01:04, Alain Rastoul wrote: >> >>> Le 25/09/2014 00:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : Alain, >>> The character encoding situation in Pharo is pretty good

Re: [Pharo-users] Passed by references and by value

2014-09-26 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 26 Sep 2014, at 8:24 , Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 25 Sep 2014, at 20:28, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > >> 2014-09-25 15:14 GMT-03:00 nacho <0800na...@gmail.com>: >>> Hi, >>> In PBE says that ordinary objects' ivars are passed by references and small >>> integers are passed by value. >>> I

Re: [Pharo-users] How to set a white background with Spec ?

2014-09-26 Thread Johan Fabry
I have not tried this, I just browsed the documentation, but I am putting it here as this process usually is the right way to find answers to these questions: I looked at the spec class for windows: WindowModel and the ‘protocol' protocol to see its configuration options. None mention color. I

Re: [Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo

2014-09-26 Thread Ben Coman
kilon alios wrote: Hi there, I promised to do this a long time ago, but since you asked it I done it now. So as Ben said I am the author of Ephestos, a communication bridge between Blender and Pharo . To go directly to the how to . Ephestos is basically a socket bridge that send via sockets

Re: [Pharo-users] Your picture on Pharo contributors :)

2014-09-26 Thread Ben Coman
Trygve Reenskaug wrote: With all due respect, I am reluctant to sign this agreement. It commits me to whatever might be published at the given URL at any time in the future. I wonder why you didn't make the agreement concrete by copying the current text into it? And I thought that I paid a

Re: [Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo

2014-09-26 Thread kilon alios
well in my case that wont be necessary since Ephestos has its own book and I will keep documenting the more features I add. I am also thinking of dropping external documentation and bringing it inside the image. If PFTE is near completion then most likely will be a next book but I decided to conce

Re: [Pharo-users] How to set a white background with Spec ?

2014-09-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
Changes on a widget attributes can be defined when it is build. To hook into this, use #whenBuiltDo: |t| t:= TextModel new. t whenBuiltDo:[:a | a widget color: Color gray]. t openWithSpec. 2014-09-26 15:51 GMT+02:00 Johan Fabry : > > I have not tried this, I just browsed the documentation, b

Re: [Pharo-users] Passed by references and by value

2014-09-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Indeed, one should not care about copy by value / reference in Pharo. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. On Sep 25, 2014, at 4:52 PM, stepharo wrote: > >> Hi, >> In PBE says

[Pharo-users] Hash values

2014-09-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! Alejandro and I are working on a new profiling technique to identify redundant objects. We’ve heard there are some effort on increasing the range of identity hash values. Currently, it goes up to 4096, which is not much. Can someone tell us about this? Also, I discovered that -100 hash =

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-26 Thread stepharo
I'm not expert and I would like to know what people think. But I think that we should consider - the impact of spur new object format. I would like to have unicode and clean the leadChar Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-26 Thread stepharo
Sven I love this chapter. I will read it calmly now. Stef On 25/9/14 07:23, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 25 Sep 2014, at 01:04, Alain Rastoul wrote: Le 25/09/2014 00:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : Alain, The character encoding situation in Pharo is pretty good actually. The only pr

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-26 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I'd love another title for this thread. It depresses me. Phil On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:48 PM, stepharo wrote: > Sven I love this chapter. > I will read it calmly now. > > Stef > > On 25/9/14 07:23, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> On 25 Sep 2014, at 01:04, Alain Rastoul wrote: >> >> Le 25/

Re: [Pharo-users] Hash values

2014-09-26 Thread stepharo
Hi! Alejandro and I are working on a new profiling technique to identify redundant objects. We’ve heard there are some effort on increasing the range of identity hash values. Currently, it goes up to 4096, which is not much. Can someone tell us about this? Check the spur format on clement'

Re: [Pharo-users] Ridiculous we are

2014-09-26 Thread Hilaire
Le 26/09/2014 21:00, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : > I'd love another title for this thread. > > It depresses me. Yes, me too. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] Hash values

2014-09-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Yeah!!! That would be really cool! Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:02 PM, stepharo wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Alejandro and I are working on a new profil

[Pharo-users] Unicode support in Pharo

2014-09-26 Thread Alain Rastoul
Le 26/09/2014 20:47, stepharo a écrit : I'm not expert and I would like to know what people think. But I think that we should consider - the impact of spur new object format. I would like to have unicode and clean the leadChar Stef Just to start a new thread about that, because it deser

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode support in Pharo

2014-09-26 Thread Alain Rastoul
Le 26/09/2014 23:22, Alain Rastoul a écrit : Le 26/09/2014 20:47, stepharo a écrit : I'm not expert and I would like to know what people think. But I think that we should consider - the impact of spur new object format. I would like to have unicode and clean the leadChar Stef Just to s

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode support in Pharo

2014-09-26 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 26 Sep 2014, at 23:22, Alain Rastoul wrote: > Pasting a Greek string in a workspace shows hieroglyphs (editors? morph?), > but GT Inspector display is ok. That is a font issue. Check your font settings in the Settings Browser. Like I mentioned in the chapter, you could try to use 'Arial Un

Re: [Pharo-users] Unicode support in Pharo

2014-09-26 Thread Alain Rastoul
Le 27/09/2014 01:02, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : On 26 Sep 2014, at 23:22, Alain Rastoul wrote: Pasting a Greek string in a workspace shows hieroglyphs (editors? morph?), but GT Inspector display is ok. That is a font issue. Check your font settings in the Settings Browser. Like I men

Re: [Pharo-users] Your picture on Pharo contributors :)

2014-09-26 Thread stepharo
Trygve We took exactly the same license process and text than squeak. This way people cannot argue that this is different because pharo is based on Squeak. It took squeak a large effort to relicense the code and we rewrote missing methods double blind to get clean. Stef On 26/9/14 10:19, Tr

Re: [Pharo-users] How to set a white background with Spec ?

2014-09-26 Thread stepharo
One of these days we should do a pass because I do not get why such properties are not simply handled by the model. Stef Changes on a widget attributes can be defined when it is build. To hook into this, use #whenBuiltDo: |t| t:= TextModel new. t whenBuiltDo:[:a | a widget color: Color gray].

[Pharo-users] Hanging reference and sluggish image

2014-09-26 Thread Alain Rastoul
Hi, I have a sluggish image due to some hanging reference on a big object (a BTree filled with test data) that I inspected with GTInspector, and can't get rid of those references. Opening a PointerExplorer on this object show me lot of various references from GLMCompositePresentations, GLMPan