On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
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> http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/
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> Do you know if there are limits on the number of presentations that we can
> upload, because
> I see (get public on this presentation => go pro).
> So I wonder if I want to invest in s
Ok so they try to influence the user by giving wrong information.
I will continue to upload the slides then.
Stef
On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
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> On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
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>> http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/
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>> Do y
On 2013-06-27, at 01:08, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> Sven & Camillo,
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> Ok thanks. And using the PointerFinder is there a way to know which of
> the pointers points to the SystemDictionary or Object someObject or
> whereever the GC begins so one would not have to check every pointer for
> every
100 looks small :)
http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject
Stef
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Hi
we got this discussion about the VM on 64 bits so do we try to take the
opportunity
to get a crowdsource donate button for it?
Esteban/igor what is your estimate for such task?
Stef
Am 27.06.2013 um 01:07 schrieb Paul DeBruicker :
> Sven & Camillo,
>
> Ok thanks. And using the PointerFinder is there a way to know which of
> the pointers points to the SystemDictionary or Object someObject or
> whereever the GC begins so one would not have to check every pointer for
> every
Do you want a donate button or a crowdsource campaign where no one is
charged unless $x0,000 is raised? http://www.indiegogo.com/ is a
platform for the latter.
On 06/27/2013 05:16 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi
>
> we got this discussion about the VM on 64 bits so do we try to take the
> op
honestly, depends a lot on who will do it.
basically, I see 3 parts:
1) The Stack VM 64bits
2) The Pharo image 64bits.
3) NB-FFI 64 (No point on having a VM who cannot talk with the outside world)
a future task could be create a JIT, but I complete ignorant on how
difficult/possible is that :
On 06/27/2013 12:48 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
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> On 2013-06-27, at 01:08, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>
>> Sven & Camillo,
>>
>> Ok thanks. And using the PointerFinder is there a way to know which of
>> the pointers points to the SystemDictionary or Object someObject or
>> whereever the GC begins so
On 27 June 2013 14:16, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Hi
>
> we got this discussion about the VM on 64 bits so do we try to take the
> opportunity
> to get a crowdsource donate button for it?
>
> Esteban/igor what is your estimate for such task?
>
depends what you put into it:
- interpreter + plugin
On 27 June 2013 14:48, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> honestly, depends a lot on who will do it.
>
> basically, I see 3 parts:
>
> 1) The Stack VM 64bits
> 2) The Pharo image 64bits.
> 3) NB-FFI 64 (No point on having a VM who cannot talk with the outside world)
>
> a future task could be create a JIT
so much?
how many men/months?
Stef
On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> On 27 June 2013 14:16, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> we got this discussion about the VM on 64 bits so do we try to take the
>> opportunity
>> to get a crowdsource donate button for it?
>>
>> Esteba
I told you: 2 man/month
(not taking NB-FFI into account)
On Jun 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> so much?
> how many men/months?
>
> Stef
>
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> On 27 June 2013 14:16, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> we got this disc
Hi-
In Nautilus when I try to use the 'Class Regex' menu item in Pharo 2
20605 I get an error that RBRegexClassRefactoring is an existing class
in the system. In earlier Pharo versions you would select that menu
item, make your changes, save them and then the refactoring would run.
How do you d
On 27 June 2013 18:32, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> I told you: 2 man/month
> (not taking NB-FFI into account)
>
That is a bit optimistic :)
But reasonable.
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
> wrote:
>
>> so much?
>> how many men/months?
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:02 PM,
On 27 Jun 2013, at 20:41, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> On 27 June 2013 18:32, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>> I told you: 2 man/month
>> (not taking NB-FFI into account)
>>
> That is a bit optimistic :)
> But reasonable.
Just to be clear: the goal is to make the current Cog & Stack VMs decent 64-bit
a
On 27 June 2013 14:54, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> On 06/27/2013 12:48 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>>
>> On 2013-06-27, at 01:08, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>>
>>> Sven & Camillo,
>>>
>>> Ok thanks. And using the PointerFinder is there a way to know which of
>>> the pointers points to the SystemDictionary
On 27 June 2013 20:51, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
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> On 27 Jun 2013, at 20:41, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> On 27 June 2013 18:32, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>> I told you: 2 man/month
>>> (not taking NB-FFI into account)
>>>
>> That is a bit optimistic :)
>> But reasonable.
>
> Just to be clear:
I am just starting with Pharo and would like to learn what is being offered
at www.pharo-project.org. (I'm also partial to Ubuntu packages, for which
the Pharo Project site helpfully provides instructions.) However, all
tutorial documentation seems to point to a VM and image that are four years
On 2013-06-27, at 20:36, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> In Nautilus when I try to use the 'Class Regex' menu item in Pharo 2
> 20605 I get an error that RBRegexClassRefactoring is an existing class
> in the system. In earlier Pharo versions you would select that menu
> item, make your changes, save th
On Jun 27, 2013, at 11:22 PM, ubuntourist wrote:
> I am just starting with Pharo and would like to learn what is being offered
> at www.pharo-project.org. (I'm also partial to Ubuntu packages, for which
> the Pharo Project site helpfully provides instructions.) However, all
> tutorial documen
Hi ubuntourist,
Its probably more helpful to think of it like learning to drive a car.
Yes we may want to learn and be taught in the family's brand new car but
you can get the hang of things equally well in the 7 yr old sedan. The
differences between not knowing how to drive and knowing how to dri
On 06/27/2013 02:38 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
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> On 2013-06-27, at 20:36, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>> In Nautilus when I try to use the 'Class Regex' menu item in Pharo 2
>> 20605 I get an error that RBRegexClassRefactoring is an existing class
>> in the system. In earlier Pharo versions you would
On 2013-06-27, at 23:45, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> On 06/27/2013 02:38 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>>
>> On 2013-06-27, at 20:36, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>>> In Nautilus when I try to use the 'Class Regex' menu item in Pharo 2
>>> 20605 I get an error that RBRegexClassRefactoring is an existing cla
OK. I surrender. ;-)
So, not liking unnecessary clutter, can I pare down the Pharo +
Kitchen Sink ZIP file (OneClick)? It looks like the only things I'd
need from that are the Contents/Linux and Contents/Resources
directories (and the shell script to launch the pieces properly). Yes?
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Yes I think so.
On 06/27/2013 03:04 PM, ubuntourist wrote:
> OK. I surrender. ;-)
>
> So, not liking unnecessary clutter, can I pare down the Pharo +
> Kitchen Sink ZIP file (OneClick)? It looks like the only things I'd
> need from that are the Contents/Linux and Contents/Resources
> directories
On Jun 28, 2013, at 12:05 AM, ubuntourist wrote:
> OK. I surrender. ;-)
>
> So, not liking unnecessary clutter, can I pare down the Pharo +
> Kitchen Sink ZIP file (OneClick)? It looks like the only things I'd
> need from that are the Contents/Linux and Contents/Resources
> directories (an
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker [via Smalltalk]
wrote:
> Its probably more helpful to think of it like learning to drive a car.
> Yes we may want to learn and be taught in the family's brand new car but
> you can get the hang of things equally well in the 7 yr old sedan. The
> di
You'll need to install ia32-libs:multiarch I think if you haven't.
Pharo is 32bits.
On 06/27/2013 03:17 PM, ubuntourist wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker [via Smalltalk]
> <[hidden email] > wrote:
>
>> Its probably more helpful to think of it like learning to drive a c
> You'll need to install ia32-libs:multiarch I think if you haven't.
That's what I meant about older parts for a newer car. You're right,
but so far, I've managed to avoid putting the 32-bit libraries on this
system.
> Pharo is 32bits.
The newer Pharo appears to be 64-bit.
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View this mess
On 2013-06-28, at 00:40, ubuntourist wrote:
>> You'll need to install ia32-libs:multiarch I think if you haven't.
>
> That's what I meant about older parts for a newer car. You're right,
> but so far, I've managed to avoid putting the 32-bit libraries on this
> system.
>
>> Pharo is 32bits.
>
The VM from the ppa installs just the necessary 32 bit libs for it to
run, I think in the VM directory. To run an older VM you have to do it
yourself with the ia32-libs:multiarch package. And of course you don't
need all the libs provided by that package but I'm not sure what you do
and don't need
Hi Rob,
Good to see you here too. There is no online list of former ESUG board members,
is there?
You probably want to look at p119-126 in PBE and then some chapters in PBE2:
- Managing projects with Metacello
- Gofer: Scripting package loading
- Versioning your code with Monticello
Monticello
Am 27.06.2013 um 20:51 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
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> On 27 Jun 2013, at 20:41, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> On 27 June 2013 18:32, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>> I told you: 2 man/month
>>> (not taking NB-FFI into account)
>> That is a bit optimistic :)
>> But reasonable.
>
> Just to be cl
Am 27.06.2013 um 21:07 schrieb Igor Stasenko :
> but in russian version (a graph), an admiral's dauther is married on
> one of the fleet's captains, and admiral, by knowing that gives order
> only to all but the ship where captain is in command. But that captain
> is friend with captain of anothe
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> The VM from the ppa installs just the necessary 32 bit libs for it to
> run, I think in the VM directory.
not quite. The VM from the ppa depends on just the necessary 32 bit
libs provided as deb files by Ubuntu. This means that these libs
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