Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-15 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 15.09.2014 um 23:54 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > >> On 15 Sep 2014, at 23:47, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >> Uko2 wrote >>> about pharo not being a smalltalk... is it true? >> >> Oh goodie... it's been a few weeks and I've been craving one of these >> threads ;) > > Actually, we

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-15 Thread kilon alios
nuke it from orbit only way to be sure , this and "smalltalk is dead" On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 15 Sep 2014, at 23:47, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > > Uko2 wrote > >> about pharo not being a smalltalk... is it true? > > > > Oh goodie... it's been a few

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-15 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 15 Sep 2014, at 23:47, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Uko2 wrote >> about pharo not being a smalltalk... is it true? > > Oh goodie... it's been a few weeks and I've been craving one of these > threads ;) Actually, we were not talking about this at all when you were gone, it always starts when y

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-15 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Uko2 wrote > about pharo not being a smalltalk... is it true? Oh goodie... it's been a few weeks and I've been craving one of these threads ;) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/not-a-smalltalk-tp4776586p4778202.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users ma

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread Pierce Ng
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 06:09:15PM +0200, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Yes. Who remember the differences between Envy / Parcplace / > Digitalk / Smalltalk-mt / Smalltalk/X / Dolphin Smalltalk ? I still play with Smalltalk/X. It is very different from Pharo, but it is an implementation of Smalltalk non

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 06 Sep 2014, at 17:42, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > At the moment I am running Pharo every single day for all day long and it is > a great recurring experience. Good for you !

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 06/09/2014 16:36, stepharo a écrit : In my opinion, this dialect thing is getting increasingly silly. And confusing. And silly. It is not getting. It was like that already back in 1998 and before too. Yes. Who remember the differences between Envy / Parcplace / Digitalk / Smalltalk-mt /

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread p...@highoctane.be
themselves Smalltalk, but which do not implement essential parts of standard Smalltalk. So where does the ‘have to make it compatible’ come from? >>> >>> Peter Kenny >>> >>> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of kilon alios

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread stepharo
In my opinion, this dialect thing is getting increasingly silly. And confusing. And silly. It is not getting. It was like that already back in 1998 and before too. The syntax is one thing the libraries are another one! BTW I opened last year a VW from 1994 and I do not want to live there :)

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread Ben Coman
boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of kilon alios Sent: 05 September 2014 19:46 To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!   AFAIK Pharo technically is not even compatible with Squeak which is where it forks form. 

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread Sergi Reyner
parts of standard > Smalltalk. So where does the ‘have to make it compatible’ come from? > > Peter Kenny > > *From:* Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org > ] *On Behalf Of *kilon alios > *Sent:* 05 September 2014 19:46 > *To:* Any question about pharo is welcome

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
haro.org] On Behalf Of > kilon alios > Sent: 05 September 2014 19:46 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk! > > AFAIK Pharo technically is not even compatible with Squeak which is where it > forks form. > > You assume t

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread PBKResearch
compatible’ come from? Peter Kenny From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of kilon alios Sent: 05 September 2014 19:46 To: Any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk! AFAIK Pharo technically is not even compatible with Squeak

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-06 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
no smalltalk around is “smalltalk”, technically they are all dialects and Pharo is just one dialect more. smalltalk-80 itself does not exist since… well, smalltalk-80 :) so no, your code would not be directly portable to other smalltalks (with the possible exception of gemstone). Esteban On 0

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-05 Thread kilon alios
AFAIK Pharo technically is not even compatible with Squeak which is where it forks form. You assume the code you write will automatically be incompatible to smalltalk-80 but since pretty much a huge percentage of the functionality of Pharo and Smalltalk is in libraries since the language itself is

Re: [Pharo-users] not a smalltalk!

2014-09-05 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
There is a long story about all that. But to be short: - if you call it Smalltalk then you have to make it compatible with other Smalltalks. And they are a lot in the 80s… - we want to make something new and cool what may be not always compatible. So yeah On 05 Sep 2014, at 20:25, Mayuresh Kath