Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Hi Sebastian, Thanks for the feedback. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Sebastian Sastre < sebast...@flowingconcept.com> wrote: > It’s really nice to see innovation in this area. I feel grateful for this > work. > > Here comes my UX notes > > *Things I like:* > > - Publish to the cloud > - Able

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

thanks for making easy to contribute! Expect PR anytime > On Jan 25, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > >> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:59, Sebastian Sastre >> wrote: >> >> Sure, I’d gladly sent you a merge request to get that improved >> >> Let me know how I could take a look >

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:59, Sebastian Sastre > wrote: > > Sure, I’d gladly sent you a merge request to get that improved > > Let me know how I could take a look https://github.com/svenvc/zinc/tree/master/repository/Zinc-WWS-Server.package You can load this using ConfigurationOfZincHTTPCompon

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Sure, I’d gladly sent you a merge request to get that improved Let me know how I could take a look > On Jan 25, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > >> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:24, Sebastian Sastre >> wrote: >> >> - the shared snippet page has a terrible design, the contrast is

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

> On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:24, Sebastian Sastre > wrote: > > - the shared snippet page has a terrible design, the contrast issue is > probably the most severe, being unclean the second one He Seb, I designed that years ago over a WE - you're right, I am really good at design ;-) It is just on

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

It’s really nice to see innovation in this area. I feel grateful for this work. Here comes my UX notes Things I like: - Publish to the cloud - Able to copy-paste the content of the box with feedback - Encourages inspect of that very instance (this one was really good!) - transforms the printed

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Thanks. Here are some examples: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/guiding-custom-changes-with-gtinspector/ http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/looking-for-hardcoded-traversal-methods/ http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/debugging-the-debugger-with-the-inspector/ Doru On Sun, Jan 25, 20

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Ben, > > In this case, why don't you inspect the list to the right and see a > preview within the inspector? > > Cheers, > Doru > Maybe just habit. Sometimes its harder to change these little things, or even to recognise that you've got t

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

> I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the printout in the editor. on my pharo i have usually several workspaces flying around, one of them usually start with Smalltalk garbageCollect . followed by a commented printout. if things get strange the commented printout

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Hi Ben, In this case, why don't you inspect the list to the right and see a preview within the inspector? Cheers, Doru On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Thanks for the feedback. >> >> I am still looking for concret

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Excerpts from Ben Coman's message of 2015-01-25 04:55:45 +0100: > > I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the > > printout in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it? > Here is one I just had. I wanted to select the result of this... > Object al

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. > > I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the > printout in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it? > > Here is one I just had. I wanted to select the result of this...

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

can you send a screen shot? Le 20/1/15 05:17, Brian Krent a écrit : A two-column UI similar to the Swift playground may be useful. Everything would be printed in parallel in a separate column. (The aforementioned output may be partially visually obscured by half a dozen means for output "typic

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

A two-column UI similar to the Swift playground may be useful. Everything would be printed in parallel in a separate column. (The aforementioned output may be partially visually obscured by half a dozen means for output "typically" considered irrelevant — for example, perhaps a disclosure triang

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Excerpts from Tudor Girba's message of 2015-01-19 08:33:04 +0100: > I worked with Andrei to find a solution for improving the print-it support. > You can take a look here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/improving-print-it-support-in-gtplayground have not tried it yet, but i wondered about

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Le 19/1/15 10:21, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi Werner, Aha. So, you want to compare multiple runs of the same code? not necessarily Do you use the print-it for anything else? keep trace. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Werner Kassens > wrote:

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Le 19/1/15 10:15, Werner Kassens a écrit : one thing, i guess it could eventually be preferable if the comment would go on the next line so that one can repeatedly evaluate or print that line. this is at least a common use case for me. yes me too. werner On 01/19/2015 10:01 AM, Werner Kass

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Le 19/1/15 14:18, Marcus Denker a écrit : On 19 Jan 2015, at 06:07, Tudor Girba wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the printout in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it? I like to construct expressions step

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Le 19/1/15 10:01, Werner Kassens a écrit : Hi Doru, works nicely and makes the playground for the first time actually usable for me. i like the way it works: the automatic commenting and that i only need to press enter. :) I suggested to put it on the next line in addition :) werner

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Yes, the print-it now is much better than the classic ST behavior! I appreciate the latest feature of being able to get the response as commented text. I have needed that in the past, sporadically. (But I don’t remember specific cases, sorry.) > On Jan 19, 2015, at 08:33, Tudor Girba wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

> On 19 Jan 2015, at 06:07, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback. > > I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the printout > in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it? I like to construct expressions step by step, printing the result in

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Hello! Thanks for the change, I think it will come in handy. 2015-01-19 10:27 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > For me, you nailed it. > It makes Playgrounds even more useful. > I also want this in every code pane, including all browsers. +1, if it's possible, I would like to see it in all c

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

For me, you nailed it. It makes Playgrounds even more useful. I also want this in every code pane, including all browsers. > On 19 Jan 2015, at 08:33, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, > > I worked with Andrei to find a solution for improving the print-it support. > You can take a look here: > http:/

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Aha. So, you want to compare multiple runs of the same code? very often, yes werner

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

On 01/19/2015 10:07 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the printout in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it? for example for making documentation like https://github.com/SergeStinckwich/SciSmalltalk/wiki/Math-DHB-wk wer

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Hi Werner, Aha. So, you want to compare multiple runs of the same code? Do you use the print-it for anything else? Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Werner Kassens wrote: > one thing, i guess it could eventually be preferable if the comment would > go on the next line so that on

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

one thing, i guess it could eventually be preferable if the comment would go on the next line so that one can repeatedly evaluate or print that line. this is at least a common use case for me. werner On 01/19/2015 10:01 AM, Werner Kassens wrote: Hi Doru, works nicely and makes the playground f

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Thanks for the feedback. I am still looking for concrete use cases why people need to see the printout in the editor. Could you provide an example of when you need it? Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Werner Kassens wrote: > Hi Doru, > works nicely and makes the playground for th

Re: [Pharo-users] improving print-it in playground

Hi Doru, works nicely and makes the playground for the first time actually usable for me. i like the way it works: the automatic commenting and that i only need to press enter. werner