Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-03 Thread stepharong
Yes I sent it to you :) This one ? http://shop.oreilly.com/product/mobile/9780596529321.do Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 3 janv. 2017 à 20:36, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : Ah yes!!! That one! Okay! By the way, soon I will design a new lecture, and part of this collective intelligence book wil

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-03 Thread serge . stinckwich
This one ? http://shop.oreilly.com/product/mobile/9780596529321.do Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 3 janv. 2017 à 20:36, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : > > Ah yes!!! That one! > > Okay! By the way, soon I will design a new lecture, and part of this > collective intelligence book will be covered by my l

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-03 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Ah yes!!! That one! Okay! By the way, soon I will design a new lecture, and part of this collective intelligence book will be covered by my lecture. I will let you know. Alexandre > On Jan 3, 2017, at 3:04 PM, stepharong wrote: > > the one that I gave you :) > and is on your dropbox folder.

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-03 Thread stepharong
the one that I gave you :) and is on your dropbox folder. On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 22:06:32 +0100, Alexandre Bergel wrote: Hi Stef! Which "Collective Intelligence" book are you referring to? Googling it gives me plenty of hits that are not really a book CheersAlexandre Le 1 janv. 2017 à 2

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-02 Thread Volkert
+1 On 01.01.2017 21:34, stepharong wrote: I tried that tack. I said Pharo is only 8 years old, but some people come back and tell me that Pharo is still essentially Smalltalk. It's hard for me to disagree. Do not fight with such people. You should not care about assholes. Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 01/01/17 14:37, horrido wrote: Quite true. The goal of my Smalltalk campaign has always been about marketing or "branding." The goal has been to get /as many people as possible/ thinking and talking about Smalltalk. It's not so much about the quality of conversation as actually having a

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Sorry Stef it will never happen. The issue here is not that Pharo is Smalltalk , the problem here is that you promote something that is too good to be true. Coders live in a denial state for decades now . The denial is about not wanting to recognize that even my hardware is 1 times better in

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
May this one ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Factbook Just guessing ;-) > On 1 Jan 2017, at 22:06, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > Hi Stef! > > Which "Collective Intelligence" book are you referring to? Googling it gives > me plenty of hits that are not really a book > > Cheers > Ale

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Stef! Which "Collective Intelligence" book are you referring to? Googling it gives me plenty of hits that are not really a book Cheers Alexandre > Le 1 janv. 2017 à 21:32, stepharong a écrit : > > On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 19:04:14 +0100, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > wrote: > > Page view

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread stepharong
I tried that tack. I said Pharo is only 8 years old, but some people come back and tell me that Pharo is still essentially Smalltalk. It's hard for me to disagree. Do not fight with such people. You should not care about assholes. Pharo is Pharo. Period. Come to have fun with us building s

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread stepharong
On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 19:04:14 +0100, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Page views are a pretty bad metric about quality of conversation. I remember the XKCD comic about "someone is wrong on the Internet"[1] and I wonder if the energy should be put there, at all. [1] https://www.xkcd.c

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread horrido
"Page views are a pretty bad metric about quality of conversation." Quite true. The goal of my Smalltalk campaign has always been about marketing or "branding." The goal has been to get /as many people as possible/ thinking and talking about Smalltalk. It's not so much about the quality of convers

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Page views are a pretty bad metric about quality of conversation. I remember the XKCD comic about "someone is wrong on the Internet"[1] and I wonder if the energy should be put there, at all. [1] https://www.xkcd.com/386/ In my case, some of my fellow programmers friends started with some fri

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread Richard Eng
I tried that tack. I said Pharo is only 8 years old, but some people come back and tell me that Pharo is still essentially Smalltalk. It's hard for me to disagree. Richard On 1 January 2017 at 11:27, stepharong wrote: > Since people believe that new equals better, we market Pharo as new. > And

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread stepharong
Since people believe that new equals better, we market Pharo as new. And Pharo is new and it will continue to improve so this is not even a lie :) There is a reason why we decided to go that road and avoid to always say to people that we use a language designed nearly 40 years ago. But you

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
If stupidity was a power the comment section went nuclear. I lasted a minute reading the comment section , no idea what kind of radio active protection suit you are wearing to allow you the time to reply. But I admire your patience. On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 at 15:22, horrido wrote: > Wow! *In just o

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2017-01-01 Thread horrido
Wow! *In just one day*, the Slashdot story added another thousand pageviews to my TechBeacon article! However, if you look at the comments, there's an awful lot of disdain for Smalltalk. It appears that Slashdot is inhabited by a lot of ignorant and opinionated programmers. I did not realize this.

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2016-12-31 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Well done, you deserve it :) On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 at 20:55, horrido wrote: > Holy Crap!!! My Slashdot submission was approved! Here it is on Slashdot: > > > https://developers.slashdot.org/story/16/12/31/0413250/can-learning-smalltalk-make-you-a-better-programmer > < > https://developers.slashdot.

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2016-12-31 Thread horrido
Holy Crap!!! My Slashdot submission was approved! Here it is on Slashdot: https://developers.slashdot.org/story/16/12/31/0413250/can-learning-smalltalk-make-you-a-better-programmer This

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2016-12-30 Thread Travis Ayres
I would guess the conversion rate for trying out a language from a Slashdot article (or anywhere, really) would be in the 1% range - I've noticed that HN articles only occasionally get a comment from someone trying out the mentioned article. On Dec 30, 2016 12:22 PM, "horrido" wrote: > It would

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2016-12-30 Thread horrido
It would appear that my submission to Slashdot has been passed over. To my knowledge, it hasn't been posted. It was out of date anyway. Today, my TechBeacon article surpassed 20,000 views...weeks ahead of schedule! That's a lot of readers. I have no idea how many of them were convinced to give Sm

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2016-12-28 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Done ! On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Done ! :) > > Στις Τετ, 28 Δεκ 2016 - 02:54 ο χρήστης horrido > έγραψε: > >> Slashdot submission >> > breakthrough-in-smalltalk-advocacy> >> >> I'm trying

Re: [Pharo-users] Slashdot Submission

2016-12-28 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Done ! :) Στις Τετ, 28 Δεκ 2016 - 02:54 ο χρήστης horrido έγραψε: > Slashdot submission > < > https://slashdot.org/submission/6609431/techbeacon-article-is-making-a-breakthrough-in-smalltalk-advocacy > > > > I'm trying to get my TechBeacon article on Slashdot. If I'm successful, > this > could b