Re: [Pharo-users] perspective request for those earning a living from Smalltalk

2017-10-23 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Petr, I've been working as a Consultant for many big corporations (mainly in VA Smalltalk) since 1996. The situation you describe is very well known to me. But in my opinion there is no technical reason for this. It's a managerial problem. Ever since IBM went out to their customers and told t

Re: [Pharo-users] perspective request for those earning a living from Smalltalk

2017-10-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Push petr! We are trying hard to make Pharo really a different programming experience and slowly we are getting there. Stef On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Petr Fischer wrote: > Here. (But from one point of view, it's a litte misery, 10-20 year old code > sometimes, a mess, old VAST, absolutel

Re: [Pharo-users] perspective request for those earning a living from Smalltalk

2017-10-22 Thread Petr Fischer
Here. (But from one point of view, it's a litte misery, 10-20 year old code sometimes, a mess, old VAST, absolutely no interest from young colleagues with no experience to willingly learn something about Smalltalk etc etc.). If I bring up enough arguments, we will use Gemstone+Pharo tools in the

Re: [Pharo-users] perspective request for those earning a living from Smalltalk

2017-10-22 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Done :) On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > At https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15523807 > the question is asked... "Does anyone on here program in Smalltalk > professionally? Not to get off topic, but I'm curious and would like to > know how it stacks up compared to what th

[Pharo-users] perspective request for those earning a living from Smalltalk

2017-10-22 Thread Ben Coman
At https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15523807 the question is asked... "Does anyone on here program in Smalltalk professionally? Not to get off topic, but I'm curious and would like to know how it stacks up compared to what they did previously? " If you've earning a living from programming Smal