Re: [Pharo-users] Coding by sending messages

2014-06-17 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, IntellIj Idea uses editor projections which basically works with the AST. I saw some demos of their MPS (Meta Programming System - http://www.jetbrains.com/mps) system and they can do really exciting things. For example, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grlxLF2JDpg Cheers, Doru On Fri

Re: [Pharo-users] Coding by sending messages

2014-06-17 Thread stepharo
+1 Matthew let us know what you get and how we can help you. The direction to not use text but objects for code is very interesting… a lot of nice experiments could be done on top of this. One direction is to use more structured ways of editing… but one needs to take care that in the past (en

Re: [Pharo-users] Coding by sending messages

2014-06-13 Thread Marcus Denker
On 13 Jun 2014, at 06:53, Tudor Girba wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Matthew Chadwick wrote: > hello, > > It's interesting that in Smalltalk, coding is still done via a text editor, > not by sending messages to objects (except in the background, parsing & > compiling etc). I've

Re: [Pharo-users] Coding by sending messages

2014-06-12 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Matthew, Is this an ongoing project? If yes, I would be interested in learning more about your effort and see if there are no synergies with the work on GToolkit. Doru On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Matthew Chadwick wrote: > hello, > > It's interesting that in Smalltalk, coding is still

Re: [Pharo-users] Coding by sending messages

2014-06-11 Thread Andrew Glynn
The VisualAge series from IBM (Instantiations now owns the Smalltalk variant) used a very visual programming metaphor for Smalltalk, C++ and Java. C++ and Java programmers tended to not like the fact that ENVY was used for code, rather than the file system, and that kind of "if you don't act

Re: [Pharo-users] Coding by sending messages

2014-06-11 Thread Clément Bera
Hello, The problem is that in most cases non text editor based IDE are not user-friendly/hard to understand/hard to use. We are moving toward AST based tools software side but it will still be a textEditor for the user interface. I remember there may be something similar to what you are looking f

[Pharo-users] Coding by sending messages

2014-06-11 Thread Matthew Chadwick
hello, It's interesting that in Smalltalk, coding is still done via a text editor, not by sending messages to objects (except in the background, parsing & compiling etc). I've been playing with coding by messaging nodes in the AST with a view to coding this way via Roassal graph visualizations