Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-12 Thread Thierry Goubier
Profiling a Spotter open ? Thierry 2015-11-12 14:25 GMT+01:00 Torsten Bergmann : > kilon wrote: > >I am on a 100kb/s connection and never had an issue with Spotter, are we > >sure here that is just slow connections or maybe something else ? > > Tried on a slow mobile line now again as well witho

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-12 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 12-11-15 14:08, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: I am on a 100kb/s connection and never had an issue with Spotter, are we sure here that is just slow connections or maybe something else ? There are two aspects to slow connections: bandwidth and delay. Low bandwidth is probably less of an issue as t

[Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-12 Thread Torsten Bergmann
kilon wrote: >I am on a 100kb/s connection and never had an issue with Spotter, are we >sure here that is just slow connections or maybe something else ? Tried on a slow mobile line now again as well without any problem. I get the same impression that we talk about something else that slows it do

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-12 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I am on a 100kb/s connection and never had an issue with Spotter, are we sure here that is just slow connections or maybe something else ? On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:06 PM Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >People are saying that they do not want to have the Catalog Projects > displayed by default > > Wh

[Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-12 Thread Torsten Bergmann
>People are saying that they do not want to have the Catalog Projects displayed >by default Why do you generalize that people wants to have them "not displayed"? It's for people with a slow connection and they lament about the slowdown - not the functionality. For this group it feels slow when

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Torsten, People are saying that they do not want to have the Catalog Projects displayed by default (before you type anything). This makes the opening of Spotter slower. Another option is to provide an intermediary object. For example, how would it be if we would dive in the Catalog Browser o

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Alexandre Bergel
> One thing that slows down spotter is the fact that we display now all entries > from the world menu, which we should change. > Also the extension for CatalogBrowser does an HTTP request every time one > opens spotter. I am for changing this, or > at least for not displaying the CatalogBrowser

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, It was chosen a while ago that the Global shortcuts are checked first, before the local ones. The local ones propagate from bottom to top. The idea here was to guarantee global behavior, such as Shift+Enter for popping out things like Spotter. I was not happy about that, but that was the ch

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Andrei Chis
> > Hi, > > I am totally against it because it's too much time to open it with the > spotter. A shortcut need to be a shortcut. If I need to open it via the > Spotter, I will use the mouse because it's the same time. > One more reason, when the image become too big sometime, the Spotter > need some

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Ferlicot D. Cyril
Le 11/11/2015 11:46, Tudor Girba a écrit : > I actually think we should disable those shortcuts. > > The reason is that they “pollute" the global shortcut space: for example, you > can now not use Cmd+o for any custom action in your own window, and that is > less than ideal. > > The alternative

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Peter Uhnák
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > I actually think we should disable those shortcuts. > > The reason is that they “pollute" the global shortcut space: Well they are global shortcuts, so that's to be expected. > for example, you can now not use Cmd+o for any custom action i

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Henrik Johansen
Ehm, or maybe fix event dispatch so it works properly? It should always end up testing for event handling By the leaf morph at the given event position and work its way up if unhandled, not check top-down like the change to dispatchEvent:with: has ended up doing... Cheers, Henry > On 11 Nov 201

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Tudor Girba
I actually think we should disable those shortcuts. The reason is that they “pollute" the global shortcut space: for example, you can now not use Cmd+o for any custom action in your own window, and that is less than ideal. The alternative is to use Spotter to spawn windows. The interesting thin

Re: [Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-11-11 10:45 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák : > Hi, > > currently to open a Playground via shortcut one has to type +o+w, > that's because it used to open Workspace. > However since it now opens Playground the shortcut is no longer > appropriate. > > So can we change it to +o+p? > (This shortcut is cur

[Pharo-users] Changing playground and monticello shortcuts

2015-11-11 Thread Peter Uhnák
Hi, currently to open a Playground via shortcut one has to type +o+w, that's because it used to open Workspace. However since it now opens Playground the shortcut is no longer appropriate. So can we change it to +o+p? (This shortcut is currently occupied by Monticello Browser, but that can be mov