Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-14 Thread Andrei Chis
Hi Nicolai, Thanks for reporting these issues. They are indeed bugs and we are working on fixing them. Cheers, Andrei On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:24 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > 2016-01-08 11:24 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : > >> Hi, >> >> We are about to integrate in Pharo a new member of the Glamo

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-12 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
no, I’m quite sure they are bugs :) I also believe the other tools do not have accept/cancel visible (they are in contextual menus), so maybe they should be there. Esteban > On 12 Jan 2016, at 23:24, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > 2016-01-08 11:24 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-12 Thread Nicolai Hess
2016-01-08 11:24 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > We are about to integrate in Pharo a new member of the Glamorous Toolkit: > the GTDebugger. As this is a significant change that might affect your > workflow, here is some background information to help you deal with the > change. > > First, you s

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread John Pfersich
Sent from my iPad > On Jan 10, 2016, at 06:08, Ben Coman wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We are about to integrate in Pharo a new member of the Glamorous Toolkit: >> the GTDebugger. As this is a significant change that might affect your >>

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread stepharo
How come? It would be nice to think that such statements will be read by people not from our world and such statements are WRONG! a) Lack of substantial documentation b) Complete lack of begineer orientated documentation c) Lack of substantial begineer friendly libraries d) Lack of Libraries in

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, I have taught with (I)Python and Pharo to non programmers or beginners and I would say, from that direct experience that Pharo is easier because it has an easier syntax, an uniform way of programming and a continuity between scripting, apps, code, code management and docs. So I will be ta

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Sven Van Caekenberghe's message of 2016-01-10 16:21:10 +0100: > I have written many serious libraries with lot's of documentation and I have > supported them for years, I have written standalone articles for various > audiences and I am active on the ML's; I did my part for your point

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
"I know you mean well, that you only want to encourage people to work on these areas, but it hurts me (personally) quite a bit if you say it like that - because statements like that are like a self fulfilling prophecy and very bad advertising that is hard to counter. I have written many serious li

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 10 Jan 2016, at 15:48, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > Personally I dont mind if its the default or not and I dont judge things > unless i try them for a considerably amount of time. > > Pharo is not and will not be begineer friendly for at least the not so > distant future. Its not a matt

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Personally I dont mind if its the default or not and I dont judge things unless i try them for a considerably amount of time. Pharo is not and will not be begineer friendly for at least the not so distant future. Its not a matter of whether the GTDebugger becomes the default or not. There are a l

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtdebugger in pharo 5.0

2016-01-10 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > We are about to integrate in Pharo a new member of the Glamorous Toolkit: > the GTDebugger. As this is a significant change that might affect your > workflow, here is some background information to help you deal with the > change. > > F