Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-05-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 01 May 2015, at 03:10, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > EstebanLM wrote >> provide feedback and enhancement requests > > Now that our fogbugz issues can specify configs, often they need to be > copied to the inbox to be picked up by the monkey. That would be a nice > option. not *often* but al

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-05-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
com>> > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > Enviados: Jueves, 30 de Abril 2015 17:49:34 > Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2) > > Thanks!!! > > > 2015-04-30 10:31 GM

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-04-30 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
EstebanLM wrote > provide feedback and enhancement requests Now that our fogbugz issues can specify configs, often they need to be copied to the inbox to be picked up by the monkey. That would be a nice option. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Scree

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-04-30 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
2714 > > -- > *De: *"Gastón Dall' Oglio" > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" > > *Enviados: *Jueves, 30 de Abril 2015 17:49:34 > *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2) > > Thank

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-04-30 Thread Pablo R. Digonzelli
: "Gastón Dall' Oglio" Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" Enviados: Jueves, 30 de Abril 2015 17:49:34 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2) Thanks!!! 2015-04-30 10:31 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano < esteba...@gmail.com > :

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-04-30 Thread Gastón Dall' Oglio
Thanks!!! 2015-04-30 10:31 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > Hi again, > > Now I made a small video on how to use Versionner to help you manage your > releases and commits. > > https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 > > This is new stuff, so you will need latest Pharo 5 to use it, > alternatively you can in

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-04-30 Thread Tudor Girba
Awesome job, Esteban! This is highly useful. Doru On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi again, > > Now I made a small video on how to use Versionner to help you manage your > releases and commits. > > https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 > > This is new stuff, so you will need

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Sergio Fedi
Aha! I saw that in your screencast! Thanks, now I see how Tests = Tests + Core ​

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Sergio, When you configure the Test package you add the Core as its dependency. eg: spec package: 'Core-Tests' with: [ spec requires: 'Core ]. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-04-30 16:06 GMT-03:00 Sergio Fedi : > Great, thanks everyone for the explanation. > > Having said that, there's st

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Sergio Fedi
Great, thanks everyone for the explanation. Having said that, there's still something I don't get. If a group is a possible configuration to load packages, then it seems that the "reasonable" possible configurations would be: 1 - Core 2 - Tests + Core (explicitly stated) 3 - Default (Tests + Cor

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 30/04/15 18:06, Sergio Fedi wrote: Excellent work Esteban! ​Question for the list: What are groups? What do they model? What problem do they solve? (or why are they useful) When managing configurations, choosing the right granularity is critical to reducing the amount of work needed. Gro

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread stepharo
Le 30/4/15 18:06, Sergio Fedi a écrit : Excellent work Esteban! ​Question for the list: What are groups? What do they model? What problem do they solve? (or why are they useful) Think about them as other configurations. Because they are not much less than that. Avoid them as much as possi

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Sergio Fedi
Excellent work Esteban! ​Question for the list: What are groups? What do they model? What problem do they solve? (or why are they useful)

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 30/04/15 16:06, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: mostly because I wanted to keep the screencast short an easy. advanced configurations might need package dependencies, but other times you do not need them. Well, it either is 1st steps in configurations, and then you can keep them out, or it is about

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 30/04/15 16:02, stepharo wrote: I would not promote groups because we want to get rid of them. No we don't. We need first class support for them in the tools. We cannot map variants decently without lots of duplication otherwise. It is a 5 dimensional problem that is not going to get easy.

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:12, stepharo wrote: > > Then we can remove the groups part :) too late. and yesterday I spend 6h to produce 20m video… so I will not try it again in some time… :P > BTW we should register (put a link and store the videos) these videos > somewhere and not let them on

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread stepharo
Then we can remove the groups part :) BTW we should register (put a link and store the videos) these videos somewhere and not let them on youtube. I want to be able to use them for the Mooc Stef mostly because I wanted to keep the screencast short an easy. advanced configurations might need pa

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
mostly because I wanted to keep the screencast short an easy. advanced configurations might need package dependencies, but other times you do not need them. Esteban > On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:03, stepharo wrote: > > Esteban > > why you did not define the dependencies between the packages? > >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread stepharo
Esteban why you did not define the dependencies between the packages? Stef Le 30/4/15 13:50, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : Hi, I made a small video on how to use Versionner. Versionner allows you to manage project configurations in a smooth way. https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 I know… is not “Ki

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread stepharo
Thanks esteban I would not promote groups because we want to get rid of them. Le 30/4/15 13:50, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : Hi, I made a small video on how to use Versionner. Versionner allows you to manage project configurations in a smooth way. https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 I know… is not “

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-04-30 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I forget to tell that commit tool is still a beta. part of the purpose of this videos is to encourage you to use them and provide feedback and enhancement requests (for example Ben already asked for the possibility to make diffs… I’m working on it). Esteban > On 30 Apr 2015, at 15:31, Esteban

[Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-04-30 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi again, Now I made a small video on how to use Versionner to help you manage your releases and commits. https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 This is new stuff, so you will need latest Pharo 5 to use it, alternatively you can install latest Versionner into Pharo 4 (I

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 30/04/15 13:50, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: I made a small video on how to use Versionner. Versionner allows you to manage project configurations in a smooth way. Nice, good to see how versionner is supposed to be used Stephan

[Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner

2015-04-30 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, I made a small video on how to use Versionner. Versionner allows you to manage project configurations in a smooth way. https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 I know… is not “Kilon’s quality”… but I hope it will help :) cheers, Esteban