Re: [Pharo-users] Loading and saving packages to filetree repos

2017-08-25 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 20 August 2017 at 12:50, stephan wrote: > I'm afraid you might do newbies a disservice by adding yet another way of > loading and saving combinations of packages. I have been reflecting on this point a bit. I think there are two relevant classes of newbies here. One is people who are learni

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading and saving packages to filetree repos

2017-08-20 Thread Luke Gorrie
I wish that somebody would take my original question at face value. It is frustrating to be told that I don't really understand the problem. I actually believe that the solution I am looking for is what I need in this project at this time. I don't want to write an essay-length justification for th

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading and saving packages to filetree repos

2017-08-20 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 18 August 2017 at 16:28, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Hi Luke, > > if you use gitfiletree with AltBrowser and configurations/baselines, then > you'll see that you have a command to do the writing for you, without > metadata and with a single git commit. > > Regards, >

[Pharo-users] Loading and saving packages to filetree repos

2017-08-17 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hoi, I want to have a quick "cheat mode" for loading and saving the Smalltalk packages in my project. This is to make life easy for newbies who are not very familiar with Monticello and Metacello. The "cheat" is to assume that there is one filetree:// repository that contains all of the relevant

Re: [Pharo-users] Shameful advertisement

2017-07-28 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hi Serge, Just wanted to say that you guys do a really nice job of advocating for Pharo and promoting it :). I joined the association now and will be sure to plug Pharo. It's great. I wouldn't build my current application at all if I didn't have Pharo/Glamour/Roassal as a base... it would be too

Re: [Pharo-users] Performance Testing Tools

2017-07-19 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hi Evan, I am also really interesting in this topic and have been doing a bunch of work on automating statistical benchmarks. I don't have a background in statistics or formal QA but I am learning as I go along :). The tools I'm building are outside Smalltalk. Our full performance test suite take

Re: [Pharo-users] How to run a window in full-screen mode?

2017-07-17 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 17 July 2017 at 16:02, Nicolai Hess wrote: > There is a FullscreenMorph > Thanks, Nicolai! That's exactly what I need. I wonder how I missed it in the Spotter :).

[Pharo-users] How to run a window in full-screen mode?

2017-07-17 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hoi! I am looking for a way to run a window in full-screen mode in Pharo. That is it should maximize, beyond the bounds that the expand button usually takes, and it should automatically resize when the world does. I'm thinking of the GTInspector but a custom class would be fine too. Is there a s

Re: [Pharo-users] Out of image IDE

2017-05-04 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 4 May 2017 at 05:26, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Forwarding message stuck on Nabble (probably the author is not subscribed > to > the list)... > > sigipa wrote > > Hello All, > > > > I've been playing with Pharo off and on for a few years now. I have > > thought a lot about where and how I could

Re: [Pharo-users] VM/Image magic numbers (Re: Pharo 6 snap install)

2017-04-18 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 01:22, Ben Coman wrote: > The "magic decode for image files" seems related and possibly *very* > useful > http://forum.world.st/magic-decode-for-image-files-td4941712.html#a4941837 > > Now traditionally the VM has been backward compatible with old Images, > but Pharo doesn

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 14:45, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > this belongs to pharo-dev, please continue there :) > Looks to me like I should make a small replacement for mvm that is for nix. Nix indeed does its own thing. The downside is that it's restricted: the build runs in a sandbox, can't touch

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 11:53, Alistair Grant wrote: > (actually, I'm not sure why you're bothering since 6 should > be out before the end of the month, but that's your choice :-)). > I just want something stable and reasonably modern for running existing applications and building new ones. If that

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 10:08, Alistair Grant wrote: > How about trying: > > $ git clone https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git > $ cd pharo-vm > $ git checkout b8ec25a570d7539653e1d793e97609adb509aaed > > and build that? It should be the source code for the binary VM on > get.pharo.org. > F

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-15 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 April 2017 at 09:12, Alistair Grant wrote: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 06:43:39AM +0200, Luke Gorrie wrote: > > The latest stable image release is Pharo-50771.image. > > The latest stable VM source release is pharo-vm-2016.02.18. > > These two releases are not compati

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-14 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 14 April 2017 at 22:20, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > This is what we always have when we release and we freeze it. > The vm 60 will be compatible with latest pharo 60 image. > It is possible that I have misunderstood the whole situation and there is no problem at all. That would be awesome. Let'

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-14 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 14 April 2017 at 08:53, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > We always try to have a major release around mid/end of april > Once the dust settles, I think it would be wonderful to have this invariant: - The latest Pharo VM source release is compatible with the latest Pharo image. This would make it e

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-13 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 13 April 2017 at 12:20, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > We will do that. > Thank you! I will wait :). Now we are under stress for the release :) > And PharoDays. Great conference! > Thank you for explaining. I am new around here ("oh, are you working on a release now?") so it helps me to have thi

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap install

2017-04-12 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 12 April 2017 at 16:43, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > I'm also interested in the upcoming Nix package initiative that has been > announced in the list recently, which also deals with installing > dependencies in a Linux distribution neutral fashion. > This c

Re: [Pharo-users] Recommended stable Pharo 5.0 VM for Linux users?

2017-04-12 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 12 April 2017 at 14:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > It is in my TODO list. > … along with other milliards of things with more priority ;) > > I will welcome any Pull Request, in any area but specially on that one :D > I can potentially make some time to help out with VM maintenance. I have alr

Re: [Pharo-users] Recommended stable Pharo 5.0 VM for Linux users?

2017-04-12 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 12 April 2017 at 10:27, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > yes, at the end I did a different process. > after cloning vm sources, now you do not need to generate them… just go to > > $ cd build.linuxWHATEVER/pharo.cog.spur/build > $ ./mvm > > that will work and produce the official latest VM :) > Tha

Re: [Pharo-users] Recommended stable Pharo 5.0 VM for Linux users?

2017-04-12 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 4 April 2017 at 12:16, Luke Gorrie wrote: > On 4 April 2017 at 12:01, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> well, I’m working on commit also generated sources as an amend… but you >> will need to wait a couple of days for that :) >> > > Sounds great, thanks in advance

Re: [Pharo-users] Build Pharo VM with --dynamic-linker

2017-04-05 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hi Alistair, Just an idea: One alternative could be to use patchelf [1] to modify the dynamic library path in an existing binary. My understanding is that this method is very robust and widely used. [1]: https://nixos.org/patchelf.html On 5 April 2017 at 09:14, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi All,

Re: [Pharo-users] Recommended stable Pharo 5.0 VM for Linux users?

2017-04-04 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 4 April 2017 at 12:01, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > well, I’m working on commit also generated sources as an amend… but you > will need to wait a couple of days for that :) > Sounds great, thanks in advance!

Re: [Pharo-users] Recommended stable Pharo 5.0 VM for Linux users?

2017-04-04 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hi again Esteban, On 4 April 2017 at 08:44, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > in fact, I will promote a new stable soon, so I’d recommend for now take > the master branch of https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm > Could you possibly spin a (alpha) release that I could use? The problem with build

Re: [Pharo-users] Recommended stable Pharo 5.0 VM for Linux users?

2017-04-04 Thread Luke Gorrie
for now take > the master branch of https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm > > Esteban > > > On 4 Apr 2017, at 07:01, Luke Gorrie wrote: > > Questions! > > Where can I find the source code for the latest stable Linux/unix VM for > Pharo 5.0? I want

[Pharo-users] Recommended stable Pharo 5.0 VM for Linux users?

2017-04-03 Thread Luke Gorrie
Questions! Where can I find the source code for the latest stable Linux/unix VM for Pharo 5.0? I want to package it for a Linux distribution (NixOS). Currently I am confused: The release tarballs at http://files.pharo.org/vm/src/vm-unix-sources/blessed show the latest non-Spur version being 2016

[Pharo-users] DWARF parser?

2017-01-05 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hoi, Just a quick question to avoid duplicated effort: Has anybody written a DWARF [1] parser for Pharo? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DWARF

Re: [Pharo-users] How to consume the MOOC?

2016-11-06 Thread Luke Gorrie
Hi Stepharo, On 5 November 2016 at 18:14, stepharo wrote: > you can use the webportal (it supports subtitles in french and english - > but read carefully what we wrote because we got trapped into a bug with > certain configurations). > > http://rmod-pharo-mooc.lille.inria.fr/MOOC/WebPortal/co/ph

[Pharo-users] How to consume the MOOC?

2016-11-04 Thread Luke Gorrie
Howdy! Just a question from a confused newbie: What is the easiest way to consume the Pharo MOOC content in English? I have tried to find the content a few times over the past few months but so far I have hit a registration page / short trailer video / video in French. (I keep hoping that a YouTu

[Pharo-users] Glamorous Toolkit as IDE for another language?

2016-10-22 Thread Luke Gorrie
Howdy, I am interested in building a Lua IDE using the Glamorous Toolkit. The idea is that the Playground, the Inspector, the Spotter, and the Debugger would all be interacting with an external Lua process instead of running code in the Pharo image. The "under the hood" part of Pharo - Smalltalk c