Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 77, Issue 67

2019-09-22 Thread Vince Refiti
re I displayed my code with a > > generalisation > > > that is worth having if << is worth having at all. > > > > > > I probably should have mentioned the Erlang code of conduct > > > http://erlang.org/download/erlang_org_code_of_conduct.txt > > > It

Re: [Pharo-users] FFI beginner question

2019-09-22 Thread Tomaž Turk
Hi, The book draft is here: https://files.pharo.org/books-pdfs/booklet-uFFI/UFFIDRAFT.pdf. Best wishes, Tomaz Any plans to draft a Pharo booklet on this subject? -Ted

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Steve Quezadas
> But the low rate at which marginalized people are recruited, and > the high rate at which they leave the industry , point to a larger > cultural and systemic problem. Your interpreting this information with a SJW lens. Otherwise known as "confirmation b

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
I agreed that the last decision should be on the ones who made the bulk of the work. But I don't see relationship between a code of conduct and not being able to talk about code or contributions quality. Just looking at the FAQ of the original CoC that originated the whole think, I see a lot of ans

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Richard O'Keefe
This is not a question of left vs right. It's a question of authoritarian vs libertarian. And this is very relevant to the community. It's also not a question of democracy vs central authority. It's a question of vs παρρησία vs goodspeak. And this is very relevant to the community also. Pharo is

Re: [Pharo-users] FFI beginner question

2019-09-22 Thread Brainstorms
I'm also interested in this... Any plans to draft a Pharo booklet on this subject? -Ted -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

[Pharo-users] FFI beginner question

2019-09-22 Thread Richard O'Keefe
I am developing a Smalltalk interface to an existing C library which I intend to make generally available. Naturally I am doing this in my own Smalltalk system first, where it's unsurprisingly easy for me. But when I have it working, I'd like to make a Pharo port available. I have never used the

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
My point was that this community, as a the big majority of FLOSS ones, is not a democracy and *not* having a democracy has shown its benefits in human endeavors like science, technology, hackerspaces and so on. I'll keep the rest of the conversation with you on the source code repository and the P

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Steve Quezadas
This isn't science, this is a community. We don't need a CoC, there haven't been any problems on this list regarding nazis or whatever. This is just a group of people trying to enforce their political ideologies on everyone else. Let's just remove the CoC altogether and just replace it with one lin

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
There is no data to support such supposed majority. But even so, free, libre, open source communities are not democracies. Imagine the quality of code or argumentation based on perceived majorities? If science would be a democracy, the earth would be "still" flat. On 22/09/19 6:04 p. m., Steve Que

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Steve Quezadas
I would say that the majority don't seem to be in favor of it. This should be a democracy. On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 1:53 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > > On 22/09/19 3:38 p. m., Steve Quezadas wrote: > > > The discussion so far shows that CoC is not a distract

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
On 22/09/19 3:38 p. m., Steve Quezadas wrote: > > The discussion so far shows that CoC is not a distraction to many  > > Actually, the discussion shows that the CoC is "a distraction to many". Actually it shows that some people consider it a distraction, others don't. I think that every body her

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Steve Quezadas
> The discussion so far shows that CoC is not a distraction to many Actually, the discussion shows that the CoC is "a distraction to many". On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 10:12 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On 21/09/19 11:38 p. m., Jerry Kott wrote: > > Th

[Pharo-users] Playground - retrieving pages from play-cache

2019-09-22 Thread PBKResearch
I have a mystery when using the 'Play Pages' button on the top right of the playground. One particular file, which has been through several versions, never appears in the drop-down list on clicking this button. It is in the play-cache, and I access it by opening the file from the file explorer with

Re: [Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

2019-09-22 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 21/09/19 11:38 p. m., Jerry Kott wrote: > The point here is: as a community, Pharo (and other Smalltalk groups) > has a lot of work to do. Code of Conduct is an unnecessary and > wasteful distraction. In the meantime, I see no discussions here about > how are we going to address the world-w

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo for ios and android

2019-09-22 Thread Craig Latta
Hi Richard-- > I see there is a caffeine.js.org/pharo... I'm trying it but it takes > rather longer to start than the Squeak page. Ah, I recently condensed the changes file of the Squeak version, so the first download is much faster. I also think the Pharo 6 image I was using is much large

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo for ios and android

2019-09-22 Thread Richard O'Keefe
PS: After several minutes, the progress bar for "Loading app Pharo..." stopped moving. So I don't think I'll bother trying Pharo on a tablet yet... On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 22:15, Richard O'Keefe wrote: > > Thank you Craig Latta. I see there is a caffeine.js.org/pharo > "This page is an early demo

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo for ios and android

2019-09-22 Thread Richard O'Keefe
Thank you Craig Latta. I see there is a caffeine.js.org/pharo "This page is an early demo of running Pharo 6 with the SqueakJS virtual machine. It gets far enough now that I think several people in the Pharo community could fix the rest of the bugs (mostly missing primitives). " I'm trying it but