Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-11 Thread john pfersich
+1 on the long term support idea. Changing an application every year to support a new version of Pharo is a nonstarter for most of my clients. /*—-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-11 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I second that. A locked up Pharo IDE is infuriating. A dead/broken keyboard is proof of this. I have been using Jetbrains IDEA for a while now and love the embedded terminal, the Ctrl-Tab for tools and Ctrl-f12 for jumping to a method + the shift shift global search (kind of spotter) that matches

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 11.04.2019 um 15:29 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck : > > Hi Esteban, > > We talk this privately a couple of weeks ago, but I thought it was worth > writing again here. As for other IDE's being enjoyable, I can only talk about > VASmalltalk. If there is ONE thing I enjoy from it, is the st

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-11 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
+1 on the long term support and stability topic. ... and if I remember correctly, either Stephane or Marcus once talked about plans for some kind of LTS version at ESUG two or three years ago...? Am 11.04.19 um 15:29 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: Hi Esteban, We talk this privately a couple

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-11 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi Esteban, We talk this privately a couple of weeks ago, but I thought it was worth writing again here. As for other IDE's being enjoyable, I can only talk about VASmalltalk. If there is ONE thing I enjoy from it, is the stability. May be ugly, may be too-windows, may be full of menus you don't u

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

2019-04-11 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Thanks guys - I think some useful clarifications came out of this - and I hope it doesn’t dent anyone’s enthusiasm to spreading the good word about all useful technology and approaches. > On 11 Apr 2019, at 08:28, Michael Zeder wrote: > > > >> How about we just move on? > > Thanks. I have r

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

2019-04-11 Thread Michael Zeder
How about we just move on? Thanks. I have responded in private to persons who asked for it, to not further flood the list. To close this thread, I feel it may be necessary to say something conciliatory: So, apology to Richard for being rude and loud. I was pushing for reactions, and sinc