Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

2019-04-10 Thread john pfersich
+1 /*—-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org > On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:38, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > How about we just move on? I don’t see much usefulness in arguing over older >

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

2019-04-10 Thread Tim Mackinnon
How about we just move on? I don’t see much usefulness in arguing over older stuff - I’m sure you/we/them will have different opinions on levels of incorrectness - honestly it’s not worth it. I think you’ve defended your corner fine , but I would much prefer that everyone focuses on the merits

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

2019-04-10 Thread Herby Vojčík
On 28. 2. 2019 18:02, Esteban Maringolo wrote: Hi Michael, I share the belief that beyond some point pushing for something can backfire, and if you keep going then you enter into the trolls or fanatics zone. However I don't believe the community has to do something, or exclude anybody. In a

Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

2019-04-10 Thread horrido
Just to prove that I'm a very reasonable person, I make this unconditional offer... If Michael can identify which of my JavaScript and Python articles are in error and point out the specific falsehoods, I will correct them. I presume that not ALL of my criticisms are unjustified. This should assu

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo image crash with Seaside App

2019-04-10 Thread BrunoBB
Hi, It seems that the problem is fixed. Not sure why Pharo image went freeze because it was a Seaside problem. (maybe i should execute the same on GemStone/S to see the result). Also not sure why Control + "-" did not halt the execution. Even in one occasion make Windows 8 fail. The problem was

[Pharo-users] Pharo image crash with Seaside App

2019-04-10 Thread BrunoBB
Hi, Version: Pharo 7.0 OS: Windows 8. Which is the best way to get any error description when the Pharo image crash ? PharoDebug.log - does not have any information stderr - does not have any information Stoping the execution is not working ("Control" + "-") https://stackoverflow.com/questions/

[Pharo-users] tracking pharo environment activity

2019-04-10 Thread Urbieta Matias
Hi, I would like to track the user's activity while he uses pharo. That is, I need to track if the user open a browser, access a given class definition, modify a method, etc. Is there any feature available? if not, what pharo hooks should I consider? Best regards -- Dr. Matias Urbieta LIFIA - UN

Re: [Pharo-users] Slots and Metalink

2019-04-10 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 4 Apr 2019, at 15:04, Vitor Medina Cruz wrote: > > Steven: > > Oh! I was unaware of these methods under reflection protocol! I manage to > make it work, and it is simply AWESOME!! :) > > Marcus: > > I wanted to intercept the store generally, with any kind of slot, kind of an > AOP ap

Re: [Pharo-users] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-10 Thread Esteban Maringolo
I love this attitude coming from the very core of the Pharo dev-team, which felt to me as being blind to what other dialects were doing or did in the past, and these is days seems to be catching up quite quickly. Dolphin Smalltalk: Practically all "widgets" (aka "views") are the native ones, and t

[Pharo-users] Why is it called #keysSortedSafely in Dictionary?

2019-04-10 Thread Tim Mackinnon
I’m curious why on Dictionary there is #keys and #keysSortedSafely ? Why isn’t it just #keysSorted - do we normally provided a keysSortedDangerously? Looking deeper, it seems to duplicate the keys method, so I’m wondering if this is ripe for some rework. Tim

Re: [Pharo-users] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-10 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Yeah, ok. But please do not take this thread as a way to defend/criticise other dialects (we all know there is a lot of passion around). My intention is more to ask “what is cool of dialect X that you would like Pharo to have too” or “how can we make Pharo to be as beautiful and/or enjoyable as

Re: [Pharo-users] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-10 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:21 AM jtuc...@objektfabrik.de < jtuc...@objektfabrik.de> wrote: > Richard, > > > as a comment on VA Smalltalk: you are referring to the Linux version, > which is also your Screenshot. I agree that Linux version of VA > Smalltalk is far from what I'd call enjoyable or beau

Re: [Pharo-users] Screencasts on Debugger driven development

2019-04-10 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Guillermo Polito wrote: > Thanks! we need more of this :) Working on it. You see me having to work around not being able to step into in the debugger. What is needed to make that work? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-10 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Richard, as a comment on VA Smalltalk: you are referring to the Linux version, which is also your Screenshot. I agree that Linux version of VA Smalltalk is far from what I'd call enjoyable or beautiful. If you take a look at the Windows version of VAST, you'll immediately realize that Linux u

Re: [Pharo-users] [OT] (slightly) What makes other dialects "enjoyable" for you? (WAS: difference between double dispatch...)

2019-04-10 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Esteban, I can, of course, only speak for myself and I must admit I never really used Dolphin for more extensive projects. What I always was envious of as a long-time VA Smalltalk-user was the nice look & feel of Dolphin. It just felt like Windows, acted and looked like Windows and offered all

Re: [Pharo-users] Screencasts on Debugger driven development

2019-04-10 Thread Guillermo Polito
Thanks! we need more of this :) On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 5:49 PM stephan wrote: > Some work Vincent Blondeau and I have been doing on the Taskbar > has inspired me to make some screencasts showing how to do > debugger driven development, and take the first steps towards > refactoring the TaskBarMo

[Pharo-users] R: Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk

2019-04-10 Thread Lorenzo Schiavina
Hi Rich, I agree totally with you! Lorenzo -Messaggio originale- Da: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di horrido Inviato: martedì 9 aprile 2019 19:07 A: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Oggetto: Re: [Pharo-users] Richard Kenneth Eng is NOT Mr. Smalltalk I j