Re: [Pharo-users] How to LAN feature

2018-05-08 Thread Norbert Hartl
That is mDNS being used. Bonjour is the MacOS service and Avahi the linux one. Norbert > Am 09.05.2018 um 02:25 schrieb Julián Maestri : > > You could also publish on a zeroconf service (Bonjour/Avahi) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking > >> On 8 May 2018 at 11:22,

Re: [Pharo-users] How to LAN feature

2018-05-08 Thread Julián Maestri
You could also publish on a zeroconf service (Bonjour/Avahi) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking On 8 May 2018 at 11:22, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > Ben Coman wrote > > mDNS would be an interesting facility to include in the main Pharo > release > > image, > > perhaps

Re: [Pharo-users] Package extension. Adding instance variables to classes

2018-05-08 Thread Alidra Abdelghani via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Hi Pavel, Thank you for your answer. I actually didn’t know about this mechanism. I think it is will do the job :) I have probably to rewrite some parts pf my code to access my variables through privateState. no? Thanks again Abdelghani > On 07 May 2018, at 13:15, pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-08 Thread Richard O'Keefe
First, my message was *defending* most of the short names that someone else was attacking. For the record, I am *far* more worried about the fragility of typical Smalltalk code than I am about method names, which are generally pretty good. Second, the criterion was implicit but fairly clear: if a

Re: [Pharo-users] How to pretty print a dynamic array

2018-05-08 Thread Peter Uhnák
> {self meth1. self meth2. self meth3} This is not possible in a reasonably general way. Usually I end up writing it like `Array with: self meth1 with: self meth2 with: self meth3` On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > --

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-08 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
Hi Norbert, This discussion has been very useful to me. Let me stress that I am not criticizing Pharo. I think Pharo is an exciting and promising project.  But I  have set requirements for PP that Pharo can't fill. I have no idea how to fill them or if they can be filled at all. So here is a ne

Re: [Pharo-users] customizing red screen of death

2018-05-08 Thread Alexandre Bergel
That would be awesome Peter! Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On May 8, 2018, at 6:12 AM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > Hi, > > has anyone played around with customizing the red

Re: [Pharo-users] How to LAN feature

2018-05-08 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
Ben Coman wrote > mDNS would be an interesting facility to include in the main Pharo release > image, > perhaps making it very easy for our "live" systems to locate each other on > a local network without external infrastructure. > > > cheers -ben mDNS and SSDP are pretty much interchangeable, i

Re: [Pharo-users] How to LAN feature

2018-05-08 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 08.05.2018 um 15:05 schrieb Ben Coman : > >> Le 8 mai 2018 à 08:28, Henrik Sperre Johansen > > a écrit : >> >> HilaireFernandes wrote >>> Computer should be on a same network, however not sure about swtich in >>> between. >>> >>> Does UDP broadcast re

Re: [Pharo-users] How to pretty print a dynamic array

2018-05-08 Thread Davide Varvello via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Thanks Ben, I'm gonna try Cheers Davide Ben Coman wrote > On 8 May 2018 at 04:22, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users < > pharo-users@.pharo >> wrote: > >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Davide Varvello < > varvello@ > > >> To: > pharo-users@.pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] How to LAN feature

2018-05-08 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 8 May 2018, at 15:05, Ben Coman wrote: > >> Le 8 mai 2018 à 08:28, Henrik Sperre Johansen >> a écrit : >> >> HilaireFernandes wrote >>> Computer should be on a same network, however not sure about swtich in >>> between. >>> >>> Does UDP broadcast required particular privilege on the h

Re: [Pharo-users] How to LAN feature

2018-05-08 Thread Ben Coman
> > Le 8 mai 2018 à 08:28, Henrik Sperre Johansen < > henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no> a écrit : > > HilaireFernandes wrote > > Computer should be on a same network, however not sure about swtich in > between. > > Does UDP broadcast required particular privilege on the host? > > Thanks > > Hilaire > >

Re: [Pharo-users] How to pretty print a dynamic array

2018-05-08 Thread Ben Coman
On 8 May 2018 at 04:22, Davide Varvello via Pharo-users < pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Davide Varvello > To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:22:58 -0700 (MST) > Subject: How to pretty print a dynamic

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
correction I mean to say "Pharo is far from perfect, if it was I would still be coding in it but none the less, stability is definetly NOT one of its main problems." On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 2:37 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM Trygve Reenskaug > wrote: > >> Please te

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM Trygve Reenskaug wrote: > Please tell me when Java, C, C++, etc programs stopped working because > their runtime systems had changed. > Please tell me when Java, C, C++, etc compilers stopped compiling old code > because the languages had changed. > 1) C and C++ do

Re: [Pharo-users] customizing red screen of death

2018-05-08 Thread H. Hirzel
>From and end user perspective the icon is nicer. From a developer perspective it is better to see the code. --Hannes On 5/8/18, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi, > > has anyone played around with customizing the red screen of death > (=morphic/athens drawing error)? > > > > > Perhaps to show something s

[Pharo-users] customizing red screen of death

2018-05-08 Thread Peter Uhnák
Hi, has anyone played around with customizing the red screen of death (=morphic/athens drawing error)? Perhaps to show something similar to what chrome shows on a tab crash Thanks, Peter

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-08 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, First, I concur with what Norbert said. @Trygve: Could you describe what you would need in more details? Cheers, Doru > On May 8, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > >> Am 08.05.2018 um 08:30 schrieb Trygve Reenskaug : >> >> Norbert, >> I stand corrected because I have not fo

Re: [Pharo-users] Showcasing Pharo, Roassal and Grafoscopio at re:publica 2018

2018-05-08 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Phil, On 06/05/18 07:30, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Hi Offray, > > On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > mailto:offray.l...@mutabit.com>> wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > > On 27/04/18 03:02, p...@highoctane.be > wrote: >> >> On Thu,

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-08 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 08.05.2018 um 05:15 schrieb Richard O'Keefe : > > #gcd: > #lcm: > > These come from elementary (primary school in my day) mathematics. They are > the standard names. You mean where you live? That excludes 90% and more of the world. So when is a abbreviation ok again? Norbert

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-08 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 08.05.2018 um 08:30 schrieb Trygve Reenskaug : > > Norbert, > I stand corrected because I have not followed the mainstream languages as > well as I probably should. Thank you for your candid answer, it clearly > outlines what I can and cannot expect from Pharo and any other ST project. >

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-08 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Why to stop there? We could also change our class prefixes. Why to put HTTPSomething when we could put HyperTextTransferProtocolSomething ? :) cheers! Esteban > On 8 May 2018, at 05:15, Richard O'Keefe wrote: > > #onDNU:do: > > That one's not so good. Not so much because of the acronym, bu

Re: [Pharo-users] How to LAN feature

2018-05-08 Thread Cédrick Béler
Hi, FYI, Noury did this package (Network-Extra). I will test for my lecture. It has UDP Multicast/broadcast and may help for the discovery phase (I’m interested in that either). He said that about it: - UDP support : mutlicast + broadcast - fragment a (large) data et assemble it over UDP -la po