Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 04/05/2018 à 21:13, Denis Kudriashov a écrit : 2018-05-04 21:10 GMT+03:00 Richard Sargent >: On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Denis Kudriashov mailto:dionisi...@gmail.com>> wrote: 2018-05-04 19:45 GMT+03:00 Sean P. DeNigris

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Ben Coman
On 5 May 2018 at 02:20, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > > On 04/05/2018 13:54, Richard Sargent wrote: > > >> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Sean P. DeNigris >> > wrote: > >> > >> Ramon Leon-5 wrote > >> > And my point made; I don't even know what that means.

[Pharo-users] [Job] Pharo developers wanted in Toronto

2018-05-04 Thread Ben Coman
On 4 May 2018 at 22:00, wrote: > Telna is looking for developers with Smalltalk experience, preferably > Pharo, in Toronto Canada. > > The role is listed on indeed.ca if anyone is interested. > > Andrew Glynn > Thanks Andrew. Because people are generally interested in seeing where Pharo is bei

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread aglynn42
Just as TLA is a three letter acronym ... 😊 -Original Message- From: Pharo-users On Behalf Of Esteban A. Maringolo Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 2:21 PM To: Any question about pharo is welcome ; Richard Sargent Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree On 04/05/2018 13:54, Richard S

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2018-05-04 21:10 GMT+03:00 Richard Sargent < richard.sarg...@gemtalksystems.com>: > On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Denis Kudriashov > wrote: > >> >> 2018-05-04 19:45 GMT+03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : >> >>> Ramon Leon-5 wrote >>> > And my point made; I don't even know what that means. >>> >>> Ha ha,

Re: [Pharo-users] Saving a Smalltalk Project

2018-05-04 Thread aglynn42
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Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
On 04/05/2018 13:54, Richard Sargent wrote: >> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Sean P. DeNigris > > wrote: >> >> Ramon Leon-5 wrote >> > And my point made; I don't even know what that means. >> >> Ha ha, I googled it and even after seeing the definition

Re: [Pharo-users] Mocketry: what is used of #where ?

2018-05-04 Thread Herbert Vojčík
Herbert Vojčík wrote: Denis Kudriashov wrote: Hi Herbert. It is a bit experimental API to allow more descriptive failures. Evaluate following code: (2@3) where x should equal: 10 It will give you failure message: Got "2" from (2@3) x but it should equal "10". But without #where i

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Richard Sargent
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2018-05-04 19:45 GMT+03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > >> Ramon Leon-5 wrote >> > And my point made; I don't even know what that means. >> >> Ha ha, I googled it and even after seeing the definition still didn't >> understand - we must be getti

Re: [Pharo-users] Saving a Smalltalk Project

2018-05-04 Thread Brad
I’m a 20 year Smalltalker in Cleveland Ohio USA that would love to work another smalltalk project. It would have to be remote as I’m unable to move due to family commitments, Brad Selfridge 913-269-2385 > On May 4, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > horrido wrote:. >> >> How ha

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2018-05-04 19:45 GMT+03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > Ramon Leon-5 wrote > > And my point made; I don't even know what that means. > > Ha ha, I googled it and even after seeing the definition still didn't > understand - we must be getting old ;-) > > Regarding the use of acronyms - while I agree with yo

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Richard Sargent
"Maybe keep the acronym and add a good method comment… " No. Please, really no. Do not use comments embedded *inside* methods to cover for naming the method badly. That is actually a counter-argument to using the acronym. Also, if one Googles an acronym, such as the recently cited TMA, one gets r

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ramon Leon-5 wrote > And my point made; I don't even know what that means. Ha ha, I googled it and even after seeing the definition still didn't understand - we must be getting old ;-) Regarding the use of acronyms - while I agree with you as a general principle, I wonder about this case. Since t

Re: [Pharo-users] Saving a Smalltalk Project

2018-05-04 Thread Stephan Eggermont
horrido wrote:. > > How hard would it be to find Smalltalkers willing to work in Silicon Valley, > or South Africa? > > What is the best response to this person? Thanks. AFAIK it is not difficult at all to find Smalltalk developers. There are lots of them here, on the other smalltalk mailing li

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Ramon Leon
On 05/04/2018 01:29 AM, Ben Coman wrote: a TMA situation? And my point made; I don't even know what that means. -- Ramon Leon

Re: [Pharo-users] Mocketry: what is used of #where ?

2018-05-04 Thread Herbert Vojčík
Denis Kudriashov wrote: Hi Herbert. It is a bit experimental API to allow more descriptive failures. Evaluate following code: (2@3) where x should equal: 10 It will give you failure message: Got "2" from (2@3) x but it should equal "10". But without #where it would be: Got "2" but i

Re: [Pharo-users] Saving a Smalltalk Project

2018-05-04 Thread serge . stinckwich
Arduinos&Raspberry boards + Lora radio board Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 3 mai 2018 à 02:40, Todd Blanchard a écrit : > > OK, so I'm curious what hardware platforms you guys use for your "things"? > > Been doing things with Particle lately. Interested to try their new mesh > offering. > >> On

Re: [Pharo-users] Mocketry: what is used of #where ?

2018-05-04 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Denis Kudriashov wrote > It will give you failure message: Got "2" from (2@3) x but it should equal > "10". > But without #where it would be: Got "2" but it should equal "10". Wow, that sounds really cool. I'll have to play with it a bit to see how much difference it makes in practice… - Ch

[Pharo-users] Pharo developers wanted in Toronto

2018-05-04 Thread aglynn42
Telna is looking for developers with Smalltalk experience, preferably Pharo, in Toronto Canada. The role is listed on indeed.ca if anyone is interested. Andrew Glynn

Re: [Pharo-users] Mocketry: what is used of #where ?

2018-05-04 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi Herbert. It is a bit experimental API to allow more descriptive failures. Evaluate following code: (2@3) where x should equal: 10 It will give you failure message: Got "2" from (2@3) x but it should equal "10". But without #where it would be: Got "2" but it should equal "10". And it works w

[Pharo-users] Mocketry: what is used of #where ?

2018-05-04 Thread Herbert Vojčík
Hello, When I am writing tests using Mocketry's DSL, I get puzzled about how / when to use #where, and how is it different when it's used and when it is not? As far as i tried, I did not find any difference. That is, pasting part of one of my tests: response := znClient

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo70 session start and silent failures

2018-05-04 Thread Denis Kudriashov
I had similar problem with SSDP server. When I tried to stop it during shutdown of image the image didn't closed. It hangs forever. In some cases I was able to open debugger which pointed to exactly same place which you mentioned. My guess was that process termination during shutdown is not safe an

Re: [Pharo-users] #ast vs. #parseTree

2018-05-04 Thread Ben Coman
On 4 May 2018 at 08:02, Ramon Leon wrote: > On 05/03/2018 12:02 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> I don't think so... any compiler book talks about ASTs using acronyms. >> Acronyms are good when acronyms are good. >> > > Boo, acronyms bad, virtually always. Jargon is awful when speaking and > awfu