Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, While I appreciate the historical perspective, I continue to be with Tim on this (and I consider myself part of the Pharo Community). I have also personal preferences for other light markup languages (like txt2tags[1] and dokuwiki's[2]), but I will stick with Pandoc's Markdown, because is supp

[Pharo-users] [ANN] VistaCursor now scalable

2017-08-14 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi, Mike Davis asked about changing the cursor size as he runs Pharo with Windows 10 on a Microsoft Surface @ 2736 x 1824 dpi. He discussed on Discord and said that all of the display is well scaled, except the mouse cursor which is too small for him. As the Windows VM supports larger cursors

[Pharo-users] [Github Repo] I just pushed template to quickly start Pharo / Teapot

2017-08-14 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi sergio, why not use my existing "Tealight" project which is (similar to Teapot) also available from Pharo catalog. It is still lightweight as it is just a few extensions to Teapot. You will find it here: https://github.com/astares/Tealight the page includes the full documentation and afte

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, > On Aug 14, 2017, at 3:51 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > again, I think this is a discussion for pharo-dev. > Please keep it there (is good discussion, btw ;) ). > > What about my proposal of including a tiny PetitParser? (it would be > “InfimeParser” :P) I am for it, but there will

[Pharo-users] [Github Repo] I just pushed template to quickly start Pharo / Teapot

2017-08-14 Thread sergio ruiz
Hi, All.. Just wanted to let everyone know that I just put together a quick little project using Pharo and Teapot to build a template for a REST server. I have been experimenting with this a lot lately, so i build this so I could quickly start up and play with a new idea. Have a look over at:

Re: [Pharo-users] Big Glorp problem w/ type coercion, pls help

2017-08-14 Thread Herby Vojčík
FYI, used a workaround: TowergameDao >> findStateByAgent: anAgent | workaround | workaround := anAgent ifNotNil: [ ByteArray withAll: anAgent id ]. ^ self glorpSession readOneOf: TgState where: [ :one | one agent id = workaround ] But it is _ugly_ (though, it actually generate

[Pharo-users] S8 Smalltalk tools - Android

2017-08-14 Thread Elvio Fernandez
We've published an enviroment for social development as an Android Application! Now we have support for Object Technology on Android devices. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.smalltalking.s8.jx8 Greetings Elvio

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] PharoLambda 1.5 - Pharo running on AWS Lambda now with saved Debug sessions via S3

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tim could you send me a "sexy" screen capture for a success story half september? I will take you text as an input and come back to you. Stef On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > I just wanted to thank everyone for their help in getting my pet project > further along, so that

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Thank Tim, My primary reason to submit the message was not to necessarily persuade you per se. But to provide something historical for the mailing list as this can be a recurring subject. Why use Pillar markup instead of ???(insert personal favorite). If Pharo were to decide on a different m

Re: [Pharo-users] Big Glorp problem w/ type coercion, pls help

2017-08-14 Thread Herby Vojčík
Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: Do you have the code somewhere loadable? Reading chunk is something I do only when everything crashed :D Esteban A. Maringolo I will attach the .st files... not loadable as its in private on-premise git repo :-( Thank you very much, Herby 2017-08-14 13:44 GMT-0

Re: [Pharo-users] Big Glorp problem w/ type coercion, pls help

2017-08-14 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Do you have the code somewhere loadable? Reading chunk is something I do only when everything crashed :D Esteban A. Maringolo 2017-08-14 13:44 GMT-03:00 Herby Vojčík : > Hello! > > I encountered a problem with OneToOneMapping and type coercion. When writing > data, thing work; when reading data,

Re: [Pharo-users] Honest question, new to ecosystem: are Glorp and Garage alive?

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> This indeed contains much more commit beyond May 2016. > > Maybe the ConfigurationOfGarage / Pharo6 catalog needs updating? Definitively :)

Re: [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is in our plan. Have a look at Ecstatic because I want to be able to - use plain pillar - generate plain HTML There is also a little web server to display your ecstatic web site. All this is rudimentary. We use mustache for the templating. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Tim Mackinnon

[Pharo-users] Big Glorp problem w/ type coercion, pls help

2017-08-14 Thread Herby Vojčík
Hello! I encountered a problem with OneToOneMapping and type coercion. When writing data, thing work; when reading data, the right child of relation fails to convert. I tried everything possible to inject converters (even subclassing GlorpBlobType), but to no avail. RelationExpression passes

Re: [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Jimmie et al. nicely reasoned arguments - and Doru's point about controlling the syntax is an interesting one that I hadn’t thought about. Personally, I find having too many similar syntax’s confusing - contributing to things is hard enough - having to remember that its !! Instead of ## and “”

Re: [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Jimmie Houchin
TL;DR Main points: Their is no universally accepted markup language. Other communities use their own markup and tools and their markup and tools choice is not determine by other communities decisions. We need a language and tool chain that we can control and maintain which accomplishes our goa

Re: [Pharo-users] Honest question, new to ecosystem: are Glorp and Garage alive?

2017-08-14 Thread Pierce Ng
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:01:22AM -0300, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > In the Glorp booklet these are the instructions to install SQLite: Hi Esteban, ConfigurationOfGlorpSQLite incorporates the manual steps that I used originally. GlorpSQLite is also in Catalog Browser in Pharo 5.0 and 6.x. Pi

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] PharoLambda 1.5 - Pharo running on AWS Lambda now with saved Debug sessions via S3

2017-08-14 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi Guille - just running SpaceTally on my dev image to get a feel for it. It turns out that in the minimal images you’ve been creating, its not loaded (makes sense). I’m wondering if there is an easy way to import it in (I guess that package should be in the Pharo git tree I cloned to get Fuel l

Re: [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
again, I think this is a discussion for pharo-dev. Please keep it there (is good discussion, btw ;) ). What about my proposal of including a tiny PetitParser? (it would be “InfimeParser” :P) Esteban > On 14 Aug 2017, at 11:10, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > The main benefit of relying

Re: [Pharo-users] Honest question, new to ecosystem: are Glorp and Garage alive?

2017-08-14 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2017-08-14 9:07 GMT-03:00 Herby Vojčík : >> Garage is not maintained as people started developing the alternative >> UDBC drivers, that share the same spirit at the end. I do not know if >> they share the same API though. > > I did not know. So I should use ConfigurationOfGlorpSQLite instead of > C

Re: [Pharo-users] Honest question, new to ecosystem: are Glorp and Garage alive?

2017-08-14 Thread Herby Vojčík
Guillermo Polito wrote: Hi Holger, ??? :-) Garage is not maintained as people started developing the alternative UDBC drivers, that share the same spirit at the end. I do not know if they share the same API though. I did not know. So I should use ConfigurationOfGlorpSQLite instead of Confi

Re: [Pharo-users] Honest question, new to ecosystem: are Glorp and Garage alive?

2017-08-14 Thread Alistair Grant
Hi Herby, I've been using Glorp with UDBC/SQLite since early last year and it has been quite stable. Cheers, Alistair On 14 Aug. 2017 11:58, "Herby Vojčík" wrote: Hello! Without wanting to offend anyone, I'd like to know, as I do not follow the tides yet, what is the state of Glorp and Garag

Re: [Pharo-users] Honest question, new to ecosystem: are Glorp and Garage alive?

2017-08-14 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Herby, I cannot say anaything good or bad about Garage, since I am not using Pharo regularly. Glorp is maintained by CIncom employees and Cincom uses Glorp for their source control management, so at least from a bug fixing perspective, Glorp is in good shape. It does lack features like multipl

Re: [Pharo-users] Honest question, new to ecosystem: are Glorp and Garage alive?

2017-08-14 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi Holger, Garage is not maintained as people started developing the alternative UDBC drivers, that share the same spirit at the end. I do not know if they share the same API though. About Glorp, I will let Esteban Maringolo ask :). On the other side, you should check again how you downloaded Ga

[Pharo-users] Honest question, new to ecosystem: are Glorp and Garage alive?

2017-08-14 Thread Herby Vojčík
Hello! Without wanting to offend anyone, I'd like to know, as I do not follow the tides yet, what is the state of Glorp and Garage re maintained / having bright future vs. stalled? I know about Voyage but I chose not to use it as it seems a bit "savage" to me with automatically applying to a

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] PharoLambda 1.5 - Pharo running on AWS Lambda now with saved Debug sessions via S3

2017-08-14 Thread Guillermo Polito
In a full image (just bootstrapped) we have: 7.7 MB of arrays (probably in collections, we should check usages) 6.3 MB of methods 5.3 MB of ByteArrays 3.3 MB of ByteStrings 2.7 MB of Bitmaps 1.8 MB of ByteSymbols That sumps up aready ~27 MB On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Guillermo Poli

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] PharoLambda 1.5 - Pharo running on AWS Lambda now with saved Debug sessions via S3

2017-08-14 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi Tim, On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > Hey guys, thanks for your enthusiasm around this - and I cannot stress > enough how this was only possible because of the work that has gone into > making Pharo (in particular the 64bit image, as well as having a minimal > image, a

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] PharoLambda 1.5 - Pharo running on AWS Lambda now with saved Debug sessions via S3

2017-08-14 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hey guys, thanks for your enthusiasm around this - and I cannot stress enough how this was only possible because of the work that has gone into making Pharo (in particular the 64bit image, as well as having a minimal image, and some great blog posts on serialising contexts) as well as the patien

Re: [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Tim, The main benefit of relying on Pillar is that we control its syntax and can easily extend it for our purposes. Also, there was quite a bit of engineering invested in it, and even though we still need to improve it, there exists a pipeline that allows people to quickly publish books. Th

Re: [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi Stef - I think your’s is a fair requirement (in fact I hit something similar when doing a static website using a JS markdown framework - and this is why I mentioned Kramdown which adds a few extras to regular markdown - but it feels like it goes a bit too far). My next item on my learning to