Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > so it is not a good idea for an open source project, as I feared. +1. I was concerned from the beginning that our conversations would get more fragmented. I rarely have time to check slack and the mailing list recently seems to be missing quite a bit of deliberation

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

2017-01-14 Thread Hilaire
Will it work with Pharo 3 image? Le 14/01/2017 à 20:38, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : > oops… I forget to update that one. > I will do it next week, thanks for reporting! > > Esteban -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

2017-01-14 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 14 Jan 2017, at 18:04, Bruce O'Neel wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks, that's very nice. > > There is also a mac build here: > > http://files.pharo.org/platform/ > > and the pharo 4 one does not work. That's the one I found when I poked > around and tested i

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-14 Thread werner kassens
Hi Dimitris, i as a simple user tend to think about these things in simple terms: i download a program, add something, upload my addition. lets take an upload step, _one_ simple step with monticello: i upload something once (git add), i upload it a second time (git commit), i upload it a third

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

2017-01-14 Thread Bruce O'Neel
Hi, Thanks, that's very nice. There is also a mac build here: [http://files.pharo.org/platform/](http://files.pharo.org/platform/) and the pharo 4 one does not work.  That's the one I found when I poked around and tested it. cheers bruce On 14 Jan 2017, at 12

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

2017-01-14 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 14 Jan 2017, at 12:56, Bruce O'Neel wrote: > > Hi, > > Pharo 4 might be hard on MacOS Sierra. > > There was a late change to the VM, at least for Squeak, to stop the black > screen on startup on Sierra.Pharo 4 was before that change, and, for that > matter, before Sierra. Pharo 5 w

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

2017-01-14 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, Pharo 4.0 (and related VMs) can be downloaded from here: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/40/ Esteban > On 14 Jan 2017, at 12:19, Hilaire wrote: > > I don't know yet Jeff. I don't have either a macos sierra at hand. Once > a Mac OS Sierra user repor

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-14 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
On 14/01/17 09:14, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: [...] Remember we have to compete with languages like Ruby and Python . [...] And in the live coding and moldability camp the competition goes pretty well (Ruby has Sonic Pi, Python has Jupyter, for other audience, but none of those are as mold

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-14 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
We agree that we disagree, that's ok , we all have our own ways we like to work. On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 at 17:08, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > We disagree, I should not have responded. > > > > Eclipse, IntelliJ, Emacs and so many other IDEs with massive user bases > all try to make things nice an

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
fair enough, its a free world :) On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 4:58 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > On 14/01/17 06:58, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > [...] > > > > I also never said "Do not use Pharo VCS" , if that is what rocks your > > boat, but to actual

Re: [Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-14 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
We disagree, I should not have responded. Eclipse, IntelliJ, Emacs and so many other IDEs with massive user bases all try to make things nice and easy to use inside their own IDE, to give developers a cool, intelligent, language aware workflow. Of course Pharo wants to do the same without being

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 14/01/17 06:58, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: [...] I also never said "Do not use Pharo VCS" , if that is what rocks your boat, but to actual claim that Pharo VCS is more reliable, easier to use and more powerful would require a huge leap of faith because from the very first experience i

[Pharo-users] About Git

2017-01-14 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 3:21 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 14 Jan 2017, at 12:58, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: > > > > I fail to see what is user friendly about Monticello , I find its GUI > and the total workflow really bad, certainly the worst VCS GUI I have ever > used. But I will ad

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 14 Jan 2017, at 12:58, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > I fail to see what is user friendly about Monticello , I find its GUI and the > total workflow really bad, certainly the worst VCS GUI I have ever used. But > I will admit this is my personal taste and my opinion that can be safely > ig

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I fail to see what is user friendly about Monticello , I find its GUI and the total workflow really bad, certainly the worst VCS GUI I have ever used. But I will admit this is my personal taste and my opinion that can be safely ignore. StHub on the other hand is whole different situation. My crit

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

2017-01-14 Thread Bruce O'Neel
Hi, Pharo 4 might be hard on MacOS Sierra. There was a late change to the VM, at least for Squeak, to stop the black screen on startup on Sierra.    Pharo 4 was before that change, and, for that matter, before Sierra.  Pharo 5 was after and clearly has that change. I'm pretty sure

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

2017-01-14 Thread Hilaire
I don't know yet Jeff. I don't have either a macos sierra at hand. Once a Mac OS Sierra user reported me the problem your are mentioning[1], but I did not get very far investigating the problem. For me it is not clear at all from[2] if there is any Mac VM 4.0. May be Esteban can enlighten us. [1]

[Pharo-users] selectAllSortBy: usage

2017-01-14 Thread Asbath Sama biyalou
Hi everybody I have a small problem with the selectAllSortBy: method When I use it Actualite selectAllSortBy: {# date_actu-> 1. # heure_actu-> 1} asDictionary. I have a MessageUnderstood Set (class) >> sortBy: I searched the whole system to find sortBy: but in vain. I do not know how to do it any

Re: [Pharo-users] Older Pharo on MacOS Sierra

2017-01-14 Thread J.F. Rick
So, what's the proper procedure? I just moved my Pharo4 to the Application directory and it didn't work? Launched but the window is black. Is there a new Pharo4 VM for MacOS? If so, where is it? Thanks, Jeff On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 3:12 PM Hilaire wrote: > Ok, nice to hear that. I will have to

Re: [Pharo-users] Google visibility?

2017-01-14 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 14 Jan 2017, at 00:48, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > wrote: > > On STHub, fortunately is live enough to let some of us being productive > without the noise of git in front. So true. Let's stop bashing StHub: it works fine for 1000s of projects. I know we are building something new an